Re: [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecations for PHP 8.4
| From: | Mike Schinkel | Date: | Thu, 25 Jul 2024 22:22:17 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [RFC] [VOTE] Deprecations for PHP 8.4 | ||
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> On Jul 25, 2024 at 5:35 PM, <Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] (mailto:imsop.php@rwec.co.uk)>
> wrote:
> Rather than force people to use functions that we acknowledge are hard
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> to use, surely the logical thing is to make the "right" code *easy* to use? Which
> means if we want people to use SHA-256, let's add a sha256() function to make it easy. This is
> what password_hash() and password_verify() did right: the functionality was already there in
> crypt(), but it's hard to use, and harder to use correctly. Providing clearer functions, even
> though they do the same thing, helps new developers "fall into the pit of success".
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Yes! 1000% *THIS*.
-Mike
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> The hash() function isn't quite as confusing as crypt(), but according to the manual, it
> currently supports 60 different algorithms, most of which I have never heard of. I'm aware that
> "sha256" is better than "sha1", but should I be aiming higher, and using
> "sha384", or maybe one of the four flavours of "sha3"? Then there's the
> fun-sounding "whirlpool", the faintly rude-sounding "snefru", and a bewildering
> fifteen flavours of "haval". A new user being told "don't use sha1(), use hash()
> and pick from this list" is more likely to say "ah, there's sha1, jolly good"
> than spend an afternoon reading cryptography journals. There's no pit of success to fall into.
> Regards, -- Rowan Tommins [IMSoP]
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