Re: Scalar type hinting
| From: | Kris Craig | Date: | Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:19:13 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Scalar type hinting | ||
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Lol be my guest. You won't have much success though because I have not
relied upon hyperbole and logical fallacies to substantiate my arguments.
On the contrary, my argument thus far can be summarized thusly:
- The issue of type hinting isn't going to go away, otherwise it would
have by now.
- This feature, if implemented correctly, won't "break" PHP or
compromise backwards compatibility.
- I will push back against any efforts to silence this discussion as has
been done in the past.
- If you can't disagree with someone without accusing them of being
ill-informed, disloyal, or just plain dumb; then you're not contributing
anything constructive to this discussion.
There, I just saved you the trouble. =)
--Kris
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Kris Craig <kris.craig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1 what Anthony said.
>>
>> Guys, seriously. Some of these responses have been downright rude and
>> inappropriate for a constructive dialogue. Please do not pollute this
>> thread with cliche, "Just find another language and get out!" posts. It
>> doesn't add anything to the conversation and instead just creates needless
>> anger and animosity. It's immature and just makes it look like we're
>> incapable of having a rational discussion.
>>
>> So, let me outline a list of "arguments" that will carry ZERO weight on
>> this thread:
>>
>> - "If you don't like PHP as it is, goto Java (or some other
>> language)!"
>> - "We've already talked about this before. Therefore, we must never
>> speak of it again."
>> - "This is impossible. Why? Because I said so. You want evidence?
>> Fuck you."
>> - "But this would require significant changes to the core source
>> code! We'd never be able to find enough sacrificial penguins to appease
>> the gods!"
>> - "Anyone who likes this idea is either stupid or not a 'true' PHP
>> developer."
>> - "If you disagree with me, it means you haven't done your homework
>> because I'm always right."
>> - "Strict typing would break everything! What? You're not talking
>> about C-like strict typing? Sorry, I didn't catch that. Strict typing
>> would break everything!...."
>> - "I don't care if you've already countered my argument. I'll just
>> keep repeating myself as if you didn't."
>>
>>
>> Variations of the above statements have been posted ad nauseum. They're
>> all based on logical fallacies and are not constructive.
>>
>> I'm putting this out there: If anyone posts one or more of the above
>> arguments yet again on this topic, I will personally extract one of your
>> kidneys and sell it to a questionable "dog food" company in Shanghai. I
>> will then openly mock your intellectual laziness and encourage people to
>> ignore you. ;P
>>
>>
>> I'd love to prove Daniel wrong, but I think he may be on to
>> something.... :\
>>
>>
> it is weird that you are calling others rude.
> I'm sure you would feel hurt/personally attacked, if somebody would create
> a similar list of the little bit twisted arguments of yours.
> could we stay on the topic?
> another 14 mails to read. :/
>
> --
> Ferenc Kovács
> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
>