Re: Scalar type hinting

From: Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:09:34 +0000
Subject: Re: Scalar type hinting
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@Michael Would you be willing to delay that? Rather than create a bunch of new RFC's, I was thinking it might be better if all interested parties came together on some other communication medium and worked on a single, collaborative RFC instead. --Kris On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Michael Morris <dmgx.michael@gmail.com>wrote: > Thank you. > > Now I'm going to go work up a detailed RFC for what I posted earlier > with some additional clarification as to when errors should and > shouldn't be thrown. > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM, John Crenshaw <johncrenshaw@priacta.com> > wrote: > > OK everyone, it seems that some people have forgotten or missed the > original agreement that this thread started with. There is a communication > disconnect ("strict typing" means horribly different things to different > people right now). Please read through and understand the following > terminology before continuing to post on this thread. We've agreed to the > following terms: > > > > - "Strict Typing" means the super strict old C style typing *with no > implicit conversions*. (If you really think this is what you want, you are > probably mistaken. Look through prior discussions on this topic. This fails > for numerous reasons, including the fact that almost every input to PHP is > a string.) > > - "Weak Typing" means types in the same sense that the PHP documentation > uses types (for example, the docs indicate substr(string, integer), and > substr(12345, "2") == "345".) (If you think you want "strict > typing", this > is probably what you mean.) > > - "No Scalar Typing" should be used to indicate the current system > (where there is no provision for hinting at scalar types.) > > > > In addition, if someone potentially new expresses support for "Strict > Typing", please assume that they really mean weak typing unless proven > otherwise (this is by far the more likely intent.) Don't get mean, politely > clarify terminology so that everyone can be on the same page. If someone > still insists that they want "Strict Typing" (as defined above), point them > to the prior discussions on the topic which explain exactly what the > problems with this are. > > > > John Crenshaw > > Priacta, Inc. > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >

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