Re: Let's make a 5.7 release

On 15 Aug 2014, at 11:43, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote: > >> Basically, you're wanting to give up hope on PHP 7 in one year *at the >> moment it is started*... I think that's a pretty big mistake to do this >> already. The momentum is here now, let's use it to get PHP 7 >> ready—instead of bogging ourselves down with a PHP 5.7. > > we don't have a single instance where we were able to deliver a minor > release under a year, and I'm fairly sure that 7.0 will see more proposed > features/changes as any previous minor, because there are stuff which can > only happen in a major version. > More changes(both in numbers and in impact) will need more time to > stabilize, so I think that the one year roadmap for 7.0 is unrealistic. > You seem to be arguing that 5.7 would pull away resources from 7.0, but I'm > fairly sure that 5.7 would be the smallest of the 5.x minor versions for > two reasons: we are getting better with not letting BC breaks slip in in > minors plus working on a major version is much more interesting as you have > less restrictions, so I think that 5.7 will/would be only to make the bed > for 7.0, mostly introducing E_DEPRECATEDs and maybe a handfull of small > features. > I think that there is no reason to give up our current release policy and > roadmap, and bet everything on PHP7, we don't lose anything with keeping > 5.7. I can’t agree more with this, you’ve put it better than I did. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/