RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types

> -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Eberlei [mailto:kontakt@beberlei.de] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 10:50 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: Derick Rethans; Eli; Guilherme Blanco; Stelian Mocanita; PHP Internals > List > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Derick Rethans [mailto:derick@php.net] > > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 10:34 PM > > To: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; Stelian Mocanita > > Cc: Eli; PHP Internals List > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Basic Scalar Types > > > >Chance of this RFC passing is going to be slim, as it only caters for > one > >of the > > three groups that Antony described... > > > > I certainly will vote against it. > > You may very well be right, but the only way of truly knowing would > be > putting it up for a vote. I'd feel a lot more comfortable if this was > also > available for a vote before moving my nay to yay on the Dual Mode > RFC. > > > > I don't get it. > > you called Andrea out for not putting up v1 of her RFC for vote because it > had so much momentum behind it. > Instead of just doing what bwoebi did you put up another RFC that got > *much more* negative tone from the beginning. > We agree on having a vote on two RFCs, coercive and v5. > Now that coercive is the clear loser suddenly v1 must be up for vote as > well? > > You had the chance to do just this. Benjamin, Maybe I was naïve, but I thought I had a better way to make both weak & strict camps happy, instead of just ignoring the strict camp altogether. While there was some opposition to it - it mostly came from the main proponents of the Strict camp, and, well, you :) Clearly right now it seems that not a lot of people bought into the coercive approach, and while I hope it can be turned around - I realize the chances for that happening aren't stellar. Given we can go to a vote on Bob's RFC tomorrow without having to delay the PHP 7 timeline, I don't see strong reasons not to do it, and put to rest any theories about what might have happened if v0.1 ever went for a vote. Zeev