Re: PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:13 PM, François Laupretre <francois@php.net> > wrote: > >> >> >> Le 03/12/2015 11:17, Pierre Joye a écrit : >> >>> The releases must be kept on hold until these binaries (and other are >>> done in the same time btw) are validated. See it as part of the QA. As Remi >>> mentioned, many issues have be caught during this process. If it was only >>> about delivering binaries, a day later will never be a problem. But it is >>> not the case. The case we are referring toi is to avoid to have to do a >>> fast patch release to work around an issue we could have seen by validating >>> the binaries.Simple. >>> >> >> I understand your pov and I agree that windows binaries should be ready >> when announcing the release. But, IMO, everything should have been 'frozen' >> 2 or 3 days ago and a new openssl release or any other 3rd party software, >> even tagged 'security fixes' shouldn't have disturbed the process. Or the >> change is hot enough to delay the date again, but that's another process.. >> >> Sorry to say that, as it doesn't remove anything to my respect for the >> huge work you did, but It's now Dec, 4th in more and more locations in the >> world and PHP 7 is not released yet ! Zeev is right, nobody cares about UTC >> in such case. > > > Yeah, and if we released a couple of hours ago there would be places where > it was still dec 2. > I can remember at least 3 similar occasion when an openssl release was > coming the same day as our release and we have always waited for the > windows builds, I don't even remember any arguments about that. > As others mentioned waiting for the windows builds are not mandatory, so if > the windows build team would be slacking off or going MIA we could just > ignore it and push the release, but I don't think that the current > situation would warrant ignoring our standard procedure used for years. +1 . We've always followed this path , but now it is PHP 7 majors release, some people here seem to discover the RM processing and try to change it to urge things. Please, respect each other's work , and if we want to change something in RM processing, then just start a discussion about it. I remember in 5.5 RMing having to wait for WIndows builds (OpenSSL related, or not), and delayed the announcement of the release by +1 day. This has happened already. Julien.Pauli