RE: PHP West Posting
| From: | Nathaniel S. H. Brown | Date: | Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:39:50 +0000 |
| Subject: | RE: PHP West Posting | ||
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> > Would you please put it directly under the Security heading
> then with
> > the new date of December 18th? I understand that the
> security issue is
> > of course higher priority.
>
> Most newsreaders decide on wheter an entry is new, based on
> the resource link provided. Wherever I put the news item, the
> resource link will still be the first link in the
> announcement, which is the phpwest.com address. Therefore I
> doubt that this helps you in pushing up the news item in
> readers, and that this justifies that first time in history
> we break our rule and publish a news item out of the date order.
>
I was under the impression that it also took into account the <dc:date> tag?
> > Is just that the old date and posting of the 4th does not
> allow people
> > to get informed that speakers have been announced as well as the
> > remaining 8 days for the early bird special.
>
> Have I said that it was too early to post that news item? Have I?
>
I didn't mention anything to do with posting it too early. My assertation
was based on the fact that the previous post that was listed on the 4th
contained entirely different content. Thereafter it was updated maintaining
the same date. I was hoping for a new post to be created announcing the
speakers but the old post was modified instead which viewers are likely to
overlook as though it has not changed as I did.
> >>From personal experience, I completely overlooked the
> adjustments made
> >>to
> > the posting as I overlooked the post and thought that it
> was the same.
> >
> > Here is the new version:
>
> Would you mind sending a *diff* next time? It gets time
> consuming to reedit and reedit what you send in again and again.
>
> > <a href="http://www.phpwest.com"><img
> >
> > src="http://static.php.net/www.php.net/images/news/phpwest.gif"
> >
> > alt="PHP West Conferences" width="180" height="36"
> style="float: right;border:0;"
> > /></a><h1>Seakers Announced for PHP West Conference on Web
> Services -
> > Vancouver (Jan 14)</h1> <p> <span
> > class="newsdate">[18-Dec-2004]</span>
> > <a href="http://www.phpwest.com">PHP
> > West</a> is holding a
> conference
> > on January 14th, 2005 at the Vancouver Planetarium
> providing a great
> > environment for the promotion of PHP within the Vancouver
> area. With
> > the high impact level of speakers <a
> >
> > href="http://www.phpwest.com/?s=schedule">scheduled</a>
> > for this
> > event, you can look forward to in depth talks from <a
> >
> > href="http://www.phpwest.com/?s=speakers">speakers</a>
> > of
> the likes of
> > Rasmus Lerdorf, Terry Chay, John Coggelshall, Ilia Alshanetsky, and
> > Cal Henderson speaking on a wide array of topics focused on Web
> > Services.</p>
>
> Seems like you have no changes so far. I tried to take my
> time and compare this character by character with the news
> item in index.php, although you use different wrapping and
> whitespace here, so I needed to do it manually. It does not
> seem to be changed, except the title of course.
>
I changed the ticket link to go to a different location and as you
mentioned, I changed the title.
> The only typo I spotted in this part is not fixed with this
> update however, and it is John's name, which is Coggeshall
> and not Coggelshall, as you provided before.
>
> > <p><a
> >
> > href="http://shop.phpwest.com/product_info.php/products_id/28">Early
> > Bird Specials</a> are in effect right now, tickets are only $40 for
> > the next
> > 8 days! Due to limited capacity for this event we recommend you
> > register soon to reserve your seat.</p>
>
> I have intentionally edited the number of days out of the
> news item. I am not about to modify it every day. No.
>
The date I had within the post was in reference to the date posted within
the article. It would be ludacris for me to expect you to update the entry
every day. As you mentioned before, the readers are not dumb, I am sure they
can conclude that the date posted would be relative to the remaining days of
the special. Please remove the count down if you feel that this is a stretch
in there mathmatical skills.
> You have a dozen of examples to see on the form of
> announcements we put on php.net. None of them do countdowns,
> none of them have links on every word, none of them have
> repetitive links... I am getting to feel that I am imposing
> impossible to reach limits on you, but whenever I look
> through the announcements posted before on php.net, I see
> that the guidelines I am trying to provide and I am following
> with my editing work are common in news items posted before,
> regardless of who posted those news items.
>
I was not under the impression that there was a list of things not to do. Is
there a list of these guidelines you have which I can follow to submit a
post?
> Goba
>