Re: Forking PEAR

On Jul 15, 2004, at 2:10 PM, Hans Lellelid wrote:

David Costa wrote:

I don't think anyone wants to stick with PHP 4 for the sake of it. There are some developers who prefer to work on PHP 5 when it will be widely adopted and seems very reasonable to me ;) Don't get me wrong, I see your point but the forking will be a total waste of time, resources etc.

Well, I disagree, David. I think everyone agrees that PHP4 will be around in some shepe or form for some time. I think everyone also agrees that because PHP4 packages won't runin E_STRICT, that PHP5-only packages need to be welcomed. There's currently no way to handle a backport of a PHP5 package to PHP4. It's fine to disagree sometimes :D

Having some sort of channel system will not only address this issue today, but it will address the same problem when PHP5.1 hits & (hopefully!) something like namespaces becomes available, or PHP6 when PHP apps are compiled using a JDK ;) No one's trying to change the world here. PEAR is not dealing well with change, and I think that a big part of teh problem is the fact that it is not technologically equipped to deal with change. you might be right but I also think that it would be helpful to sustain the proposed change with code and not just ideas. Really It is too easy to come in and say let's do this (not accusing anyone..but I have seen this approach several times) and then leave it as a concept. Everyone has smart ideas, but the implementation is an important part of it. The same with Exceptions, we had a nice discussion but as a result of it and for Thomas & your work now we have a PEAR_Exception in CVS.

Cheers, David Costa