my state of the pear address from a while back

Hi, I wrote my view of the current state of pear a while back as an article to the php mag. Since then my views have changed a bit, especially in regards to deal with PHP5 now that PHP 5.1 is here. So here is the article freely online. http://www.php-mag.net/magphpde/magphpde_article/psecom,id,745,nodeid,21.html Obviously this is my opinion on how I preceive PEAR as for alot of the things I note in the article we have never made a formal decision of any sort. Anyways I think this article could help in highlighting the good and the bad in PEAR, even if you do not agree with my observations. I have noted this a few times, but I personally think that its time we consider opening a second repository where we start from scratch with tighter regulations, no old BC issues with packages that do not even fit our current more lax standards and a place for people to go if they have shed themselves of PHP4. Before everybody gets themselves in a twist that I proclaim todays PEAR crap. This is not the case. PEAR is still the #1 place to go for solid code and will remain so in the foreseeable future even if we do not make any big changes. Also this second repository could also just mean that we have two "views" on our repository that separate the packages on some logical level rather than technical level. I also think that before we are in a situation where we can actually feasibly ponder any big changes in PEAR we first need to work out a new more scalable organization structure that fits the dynamics of open source development, the tree like structure of packages we have and the sheer size of this project. I hope I do more good than harm with this email and I urge everyone to keep any possible following discussion civil. I also encourage people to post less and think more. I even encourage people to first discuss their ideas in smaller groups of peers that they can work with well before taking their ideas to this list. If any group of people needs infrastructure to discuss I can probably provide mailinglists and wiki for this purpose (open or closed). regards, Lukas