Re: New PDO-based DBAL/ORM for PEAR2

On Nov 21, 2007 11:48 AM, Alexey Borzov <borz_off@cs.msu.su> wrote: > Hi, > > David Coallier wrote: > >>> Michael, "PDO is the way PHP is getting?" I'd sure love to see that > >>> but I'm sorry that the numbers say something else: > >>> > >>> PDO statistics: 104 692 downloads > >>> > >>> http://pecl.php.net/package-stats.php?pid=335&rid=&cid=7 > >>> > >>> MDB2 statistics: 384 232 downloads > >>> http://pear.php.net/package-stats.php?pid=279&cid=7 > >>> ÅÖ¥w,.°û ‚Ù > >>> > >>> And more ? Some software have MDB2 bundled. > >> These numbers are irrelevant as PDO is bundled with PHP. And if you compare > >> download numbers of PHP with those of MDB2, I'd bet the outcome will be a bit > >> different. > >> > > > > Sure, I'm using facts and numbers, but yes you could "assume" that > > since PHP bundles PDO with it, then it is there more often. Got > > numbers to prove that it's actually used more than MDB2? > > No, but you don't have numbers either. The download statistics for MDB2 vs PDO > are bogus and your claim that PDO-based package will only reach "25-30%" of > developers isn't based even on bogus statistics, just handwaving. > > The hard facts and numbers is that 95.7% of PHP developers are stupid and 96.3% > of them are unable to do their own research, so they'll use whatever is bundled. > The number of downloads of PEAR::DB vs PEAR::MDB2 shows that nicely: the former > was bundled with PHP and has several times more downloads. > Ok Alexey, I have no clue where you got your 95, 96% but it's totally useless to discuss with you. I am wrong, you are right, you win against the world. -- David Coallier, Founder & Software Architect, Agora Production (http://agoraproduction.com) 51.42.06.70.18