Re: Req #14853 [Bgs->Opn]: Change license from php to (new) bsd

Hi Till, [I'm cc'ing Pear QA since we seem to be at an impasse] Email does not provide a reliable way of identifying the authors. We are talking about changing a license. I thought my idea [asking authors to add a comment to the bug stating their affirmation] was a tidy little solution since all the authors do have pearweb accounts. I caution against relying on email as a means for the authors to relinquish their rights to the software, and I wouldn't take responsibility for changing the license with only affirmation via email. Thus, it's my opinion that the license should not be changed at this time. Bigger picture... Does anyone know of any pear documentation or pepr proposals which detail procedures or requirements for a license change? Would a short pepr proposal be useful? Then it would be resolved, and the process would be formalized for all future instances. thoughts? -craig -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: [PEAR-BUG] Req #14853 [Bgs->Opn]: Change license from php to (new) bsd From: till <klimpong@gmail.com> To: Craig Constantine <cconstantine@php.net> Date: Sat Apr 4 12:53:50 2009

Hey Craig, it's a lot easier to email people to request a comment via email and then be done with it. And it works too. In the end CC pear-qa@ and it'll be on the Internets for forever and the license change is "legit". No need to make people who don't contribute actively go on the bug tracker. ;-) I know, in a perfect world they would. If you're still missing Kai, I could see if I can find him in Berlin. Let me know. Till On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Craig Constantine <cconstantine@php.net> wrote:

I disagree with you. The original feature request was posted by a 3rd party. I suggested the methodology of having each author post a comment. We had the conversation about the license via email, and included pear-dev. I also, twice, directly emailed all the authors. After six months, noone other than myself had posted a comment agreeing. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [PEAR-BUG] Req #14853 [Bgs->Opn]: Change license from php to (new) bsd From: helgith@gmail.com To: craig@constantine.name, pear-bugs@lists.php.net Date: Fri Apr 3 20:53:46 2009

Edit report at http://pear.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=14853&edit=1

 ID:               14853
 Updated by:       helgith@gmail.com
 Reported By:      dam at venturin dot net
 Summary:          Change license from php to (new) bsd
-Status:           Bogus
+Status:           Open
 Type:             Feature/Change Request
 Package:          Net_Ping

Operating System: Any Package Version: 2.4.3

 PHP Version:      Irrelevant

Roadmap Versions: New Comment: -Status: Bogus +Status: Open Craig, I would like to point out that Jan, Martin and Thomas have all agreed to the license change. Only Kai is left. Have you tried contacting any of them privately ? Since bug reports are not sent out to people marked inactive. Going to reopen this for now. (btw this one should have been closed with won't fix instead of bogus given the reasons you gave.) Previous Comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2009-04-02 10:20:23] damko That's so sad. It's a kind of lost for the open source community. Anyway, thanks for the support Cheers! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2009-04-01 17:10:35] cconstantine -Status: Open +Status: Bogus Sorry, but your problem does not imply a bug in PEAR itself. For a list of more appropriate places to ask for help using PEAR, please visit http://pear.php.net/support/ as this bug system is not the appropriate forum for asking support questions. Thank you for your interest in PEAR. mandatory comment here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2009-04-01 17:09:46] cconstantine This obviously isn't going anywhere. Marking it "won't fix" and closing ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2008-10-23 10:39:10] cconstantine I agree to this license change. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2008-10-23 10:38:11] cconstantine The proposed new License is the new BSD license: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.html This change would also be in agreement with the latest PEAR dev guidelines on licensing: http://pear.php.net/manual/en/developers.contributing.php The Net_Ping package authors are as follows. If each of these authors posts an affirmative comment on this feature request, then I will change the license and update the package appropriately. Martin Jansen <mj@php.net> Tomas V.V.Cox <cox@idecnet.com> Jan Lehnardt <jan@php.net> Kai Schroeder <k.schroeder@php.net> Craig Constantine <cconstantine@php.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The remainder of the comments for this report are too long. To view the rest of the comments, please view the bug report online at http://pear.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=14853

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