Re[2]: [PEAR-QA] History of Karma?? .... was Re: [PEAR-QA] Re: PEAR Account Request: sean

Hello Lukas, >> Great info! It is interesting to know that an idea of karma system >> has come from BSD hackers. But in my opinion the word has evolved. From >> philosophic category it became a hacker's joke and eventually finished >> the full circle in the meaning of karma system. >> >> It is really interesting if PEAR can support this kind of karma system? >> How about a separate proposal on it? LS> err? LS> Now I really wonder if you are getting off making circular arguments or LS> if its also a language barrier thing, but wasnt it you that objected LS> using karma to denote accessrights (which you thought was a PEAR LS> invention, which in turn prompted Alan's history lesson)? I'm a little confused. "Get off" has too many meanings in the dictionary I use. If I understand you correctly, in my earlier letters I mentioned an idea, that access to PEAR development should be controlled by karma system. There's no contradiction with any of my letters and that one is no exception. But karma system in the wide sense, like I described it in the answer to bertrand. I've never taken message "you don't have karma" on CVS error too seriously, because it is subtle way to say you don't have access to that part of repository. In buddhizm that also means that after rebirth you will have another karma, which in this case might allow you to do the things you can't do now. So you need to experience this "rebirth" first. The main point in karma system is that karma is independent of everything, except person deeds (there can be a difference with buddhizm in the way, that karma might be independent of everything at all - feel free to correct me). I really have some language barriers and I'm writing such long letters because I don't want to be misunderstood. If meanings of "circular" and "contradiction" in your context are not the same, then I don't understand what are "circular arguments". t --