Re: History of Karma?? .... was Re: [PEAR-QA] Re: PEAR Account Request: sean

From: Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:35:26 +0000
Subject: Re: History of Karma?? .... was Re: [PEAR-QA] Re: PEAR Account Request: sean
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Hello Alan, Great info! It is interesting to know that an idea of karma system has come from BSD hackers. But in my opinion the word has evolved. From philosophic category it became a hacker's joke and eventually finished the full circle in the meaning of karma system. It is really interesting if PEAR can support this kind of karma system? How about a separate proposal on it? AK> Karma in this context normally relates to the access control message AK> "You have Insufficient Karma to ....." when commiting a file etc. AK> The message is issued by a perl script run at commit time by cvs AK> originally (and perhaps still) called cvs_acls.pl AK> First mention I could find of this was made in 1994 AK> AK> http://groups.google.com.hk/groups?selm=graichen.777105470%40slbh04&output=gplain AK> The first mention I could find of karma related to avail was a FreeBSD AK> commit in 1996 AK> cvs karma appears to have been used throughout (Net|Free)BSD's history, AK> and was implemented by the apache group, and later on the PHP group, AK> since PEAR shares PHP's CVS server, it in turn uses "CVS karma" to AK> indicate whether a user has valid privaliges to modify a file. AK> Perhaps the most amusing post regarding karma came in 1999, when a user AK> of wincvs tried commiting a file... AK> AK> http://groups.google.com.hk/groups?selm=fa.k8inacv.p6gpo2%40ifi.uio.no&output=gplain AK> Regards AK> Alan AK> anatoly techtonik wrote: >>Hello bertrand, >> >>bG> I'm really sorry to insist, >>bG> but could someone define what's that CVS karma ? >>bG> I mean, technically. >>bG> For buddhist karma definition, I would search elsewhere as on pear. >> >>Karma in a technical sense in TikiWiki project and in some others is >>weight of some person deeds. Karma system means that a person with >>more or positive karma have a greater influence on votings, proposals >>or access restrictions. Karma points can be earned by writing docs, >>commiting code to CVS, by patches, fixes sent to trackers or by score >>system, which allows other members with positive karma to define >>quality of your messages or other activity. I suggest you search on >>http://tikiwiki.org better than PEAR. >> >>PEAR misusing this word as their sense of it is just "access". I'm >>unable to convince everyone here, because I don't have karma for that >>in buddhist definition, so this misusing will take place and in the >>future. "You don't have karma" sounds more pleasant than "you don't >>have access", but these are not the same. >> >> >>t >> >> t --

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