Re: PHP|QA Member Names in phpinfo()

Not to discount anyone's contribution to PHP and the QA effort - but if you did not catch any of the messages that discussed this issue, where were you? :) Actually, this thread brings up a few issues that have been bugging me lately. The biggest issue has been team participation: Is it is too much to expect that the QA team members will read and respond to the paltry amount of messages on the QA list?[1] I know that almost everyone on the team is busy, but how long does it take to send a message saying that you are busy? Take a look at the dev and doc teams. On average, I would say that each of these developers is as busy (or busier) as we are. How do they manage to stay as active and committed as they do - and why can't we? I believe that this is partially my fault - my contribution is at times ineffective and poorly organized. If leadership in the open source community is by example, then my example has been well- intentioned, but otherwise poor. I think that everyone's hope for the QA team was to have a dedicated group of people working individually or in small teams on tackling the problems involved in creating and maintaining an effective QA process for PHP. Some people do this - they take on one or more aspects of QA and devote time to it regularly. I feel that others like the idea of being part of the QA team, but rarely respond when the call goes out for help, feedback or testing. I know that everyone involved in this is a volunteer and that work, family, sanity and leisure have to come first - however, staying up to date with the QA team can be a pretty trivial investment of time. Even having everyone devoting a couple of hours a week would put us ahead of where we are now. [2] Zak Greant [1] Note that some people participate very nicely - this invective is not aimed at them. [2] Even providing active feedback would be welcome. Personally, I find it unnerving to cast my thoughts out into the ether, and not even hear an echo in reply. PS. Perhaps I will regret this message later, after my mailbox explodes in a conflagration of flames or once a few hairy trolls sit themselves on the list and will not leave.... :)