Re: [PHP4BETA] Byte-coding or protecting

Well, how do you feel about a person who does not sign his email posting, the return address for which in the mail header reads "operator"? (Just kidding 8^). While I certainly am a huge booster of open source, and hope to be placing about 10 PHP-related packates into the public domain in the coming year (once PHP4 settles down), I see no point in getting doctrinaire about the uses to which people will put PHP. This issue of open/proprietary comes up again and again. The point ought to be to get people using PHP and producing useful applications, and if that means enabling some non-open application to be written, so be it. There will still be a ton of useful open source work available, and if there is a compellingly useful piece of proprietary software written, you can bet that an open source version of it will become available in time. In a certain sense, the proprietary code folks are always fighting a losing battle, in which the best they can hope for is a small amount of time to make money until a freebie version of their product appears. So although I plan to stay on the "open source" side of the fence, I think we all have better things to do than argue with a minority of commercially minded folk who want to keep their work secret. Let them. If they come up with some clever general ideas, it still contributes to the overall advancements of creating good open source PHP applications... Cheerio, Rick Rodgers > From php4beta-return-10881-rodgers=nlm.nih.gov@lists.php.net Thu Feb 24 12:09:05 2000 > Mailing-List: contact php4beta-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm > Delivered-To: mailing list php4beta@lists.php.net > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:07:14 -0700 (MST) > From: operator <vandal@missoulaweb.com> > To: Faisal Nasim <swiftkid@sat.net.pk> > cc: Yury Bokhoncovich <byg@fis.nsk.su>, php4beta@lists.php.net > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Subject: Re: [PHP4BETA] Byte-coding or protecting > > What is the general feeling about people trying to keep their code secret? > I mean, here is PHP, an awesome tool that is open source, as well as > apache, and all the libs and helpers and API all just given to us for the > common good. And then there are peoplke who want to use those free and > open tools to create closed and proprietary programs. If PHP and Apache > were like that then hardly any of us would even be here. > > To me it seems rude to try to lock up your code. > What does anyone else think? > > A > > > : > which did a nice hack so that the script contents > > : > go to /usr/bin/perl and the program itself would > > : > be a ELF binary! (group member thinks its a C > > : > script, and don't bother with it!) ;-) But that didn't > > : > allow POST on the script :( > > : > > > : > Any ideas? > > : We have the same problem and we have decided that it's a better to make > > : library > > : for critical points of a code. So, these pieces of a code form > > : "library". > > : This library you'd disposed away from developpers'groups, so the only > > : admin can > > : W/R and the only apache's pseudo-user (e.g. apache or web) could read > > : this. > > : a kind of the following: > > : in a file > > : ... > > : <? include "$LIB/somesmartlib.lib"; ?> > > : ... > > : ls -l should show: > > : > > : -rw-r----- 1 byg apache 1175 Jan 5 16:01 somesmartlib.lib > > > > > > Actually there are a number of other places too where I would like > > to protect my code, and some sort of encryption is necessary! > > > > Is there any succesful implementation of PHP => C bridge? > > > > I see that php3 allowed -p option, is that secure enough? How can > > mod_php run a tokenized script? > > > > Is there any other secure way in PHP4? (PHP4 doesn't allow pre-tokenization > > of a script) > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Faisal > > > > > > -- > > PHP 4.0 Beta Mailing List > > <http://www.php.net/version4/> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php4beta-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: php4beta-help@lists.php.net > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php4beta-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > > > -- > PHP 4.0 Beta Mailing List <http://www.php.net/version4/> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php4beta-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php4beta-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php4beta-admin@lists.php.net > >