Re: [PHP4BETA] Draft for PHP 4.0 Beta 1 page

At 16:03 15/07/99 , Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:

As a matter of fact, since nobody on core@ even made a sound in the last 24 hours about this page, it seems that the page will remain just as it is (except for the downloads page being added, of course). If anybody has any problems with this page, please say it now. Well, I think we need to at least talk about the fact that you changed the logo.

If you have anything to say about it, go ahead and say it.

Could we add a blurb to the introduction, or maybe to the new features section. Something like: All the features and modules from PHP3 are being carried forward into PHP4 and the goal is to make the transition from version 3 to 4 as painless as possible.

I think we're pushing the complete compatibility issue quite well in there. Your point here seems to be directly related to the latest and greatest argument we've had on core@, otherwise, it really seems like stating the obvious. If you have concrete sentences you think you want to put in and a concrete place to put them in, go ahead and put them in, it's on chek, you know.

Also, you have a typo in the incompatibilities section. "compatibility" should be "compatible". "blazing fast" also sounds odd. For it to be grammatically correct I think that should be "blazingly fast".

Ok.

And how about making a php4@lists.php.net mailing list once and for all instead of php4beta and having to transition people later?

I think the mailing list name has implications, and that we shouldn't make people think it's a release version when it isn't. What do the rest of you guys think?

And at some point someone is going to have to publically defend the fact that PHP will no longer be an opensource project as per normal definitions of opensource projects. Debian will not be able to ship PHP4, for example, since they are very picky about stuff like this. Hopefully RedHat won't follow Debian like they did initially with KDE.

I think what you define as 'normal definitions' for OpenSource(tm) projects are silly(tm); Open source is source code that is open, and that you can benefit from by reading, understanding and changing as much as you want. You know my stand about these issues. We've had enough world wars for a week, so I think it's about time you stopped pushing this point again and again. If and when we have to defend anything, we'll do it. Zeev P.s.: Andi - looks like you won the bet after all. -- Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> http://www.zend.com/ For a PGP public key, finger bourbon@netvision.net.il