Re: Candidate Info for Home Page

Bringing back the discussion to the list, didn't meant to do this off-list. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Hannes Magnusson <hannes.magnusson@gmail.com > wrote: > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 13:57, Ferenc Kovacs <info@tyrael.hu> wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Hannes Magnusson > > <hannes.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 19:34, Ferenc Kovacs <info@tyrael.hu> wrote: > [..] > >> > Yeah, because you are seeing the project as from a contributor POV. > But > >> > if > >> > you check out the PHP project, as an end user/consumer, who just looks > >> > for a > >> > interpreted language for web development, then it is important, that > who > >> > else is using this project, how much contributors does the project > have, > >> > etc. > >> > Because you don't want to be standing on the shoulders of giants when > >> > they > >> > collapse. :) > >> > >> > >> Contributors can be browsed on http://people.php.net. > >> As for "who are > >> using it", where would you draw the line? Only fortune500 companies? > >> Medical related? Goverments? > >> This sort of stuff is simply riddled with political aspects I don't > >> want to deal with. > >> Simply our links page is controversial enough, and will be removed. I > >> don't want to replace that battle with an ever more profiled one. > >> > >> > > > > when I was talking about contributors, I meant something a little bit > > broader than people who have @php.net account, so thats not the same as > > people.php.net (and Paul Dragoonis said something about that > people.php.net > > shouldn't be online in the current form, so maybe that should be sorted > > out(I don't know the reasons other than it's old and unfinished) else > it's > > hardly better, than nothing). > > I understand your concerns, but from my POV, I think it's not unsolvable, > > maybe we should rest this for now, and when some other people joins the > > conversation, we can came up with something, which everybody can agree > on. > > > I have no idea why he said that, he is in no way involved with that > project. > The idea with people.php.net is to make information about the > developers more accessible, and improve "who is who" in the project, > and even map out the contributors locations. > It's a good idea, but it is missing content. I've just checked some of the core devs: http://people.php.net/user.php?username=stas http://people.php.net/user.php?username=sniper http://people.php.net/user.php?username=pajoye http://people.php.net/user.php?username=rasmus btw: the autocomplete search list the matches twice, if one person matches multiple time: when I searched typed "sta" for stas, it listed him twice, once for the Stanislav, and once for his nick Stas > Sure, there is a lot of work still to be done, but I think its > valuable place for newcomers to see who are behind the project, and > much more valuable then listing random companies who have no > involvement at all. > Agree, but just for the record: I didn't suggested that we should list random companies who have no involvement at all. :) > > > > >> >> >> Thats a pain to do. Blindly renaming the lists may not be that > hard, > >> >> >> but what about all the archives? Should the -cvs@ names become > >> >> >> aliases > >> >> >> to -commits@? Should we move all the current subscribers? We'd > need > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> update the commit hooks to post to the new list.. There are bunch > of > >> >> >> things that needs to be remembered and dealt with :) > >> >> > > >> >> > It should have been taken care of when the migration was taking > >> >> > place. > >> >> > I think that the actual work would require less than a day for > >> >> > somebody > >> >> > who > >> >> > has a list of the required modifications and access for the boxes. > >> >> > The only thing that missing is to decide/agree on the idea, write > up > >> >> > that > >> >> > list, and take a day off :) > >> >> > Tyrael > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I work on the PHP project to scratch an itch. I do not itch in that > >> >> area. Feel free to do it though. Would be nice to have <foo>-commits@ > >> >> rather then -cvs@ :) > >> >> > >> > > >> > Sorry, I didn't meant to boss you around, I was just talking about the > >> > size > >> > of the task in general. :) > >> > >> Right, and I have no problem with if someone wants to do it. It just > >> has to be thought out. Will it be possible to send subscribe requests > >> to <foo>-cvs-subscribe@ still like hundreds of blog entries, magazine > >> articles, and books recommend? > >> > > > > I would go with something like an auto-reply for those adresses: sorry, > > moved, you probably looking for <foo>-commits-subscribe@ read the > > announcement here: <link> > > something like this. > > I'm just listing random problems that need to be taken care of :) > All I'm saying; it has to be thought through. > Then we are agree on this, if you remember, I said, that if you have the list, the required work for make this happen, isn't much. > > > > ps: I've just noticed, that we switched to privat emailing, are there any > > reason for this to be discussed off-list, or just a mistake on your part? > > Tyrael > > You started started it, I figured you didn't want this on-list. > > /o\ not intenionally Tyrael