Re: Candidate Info for Home Page

I couldn't really work out what the people.php.net mention was really about from your conversation.. I just mentioned it to Dan brown about to remember to add that site in the "networks" list. Cheers On 9 Jan 2011 18:23, "Ferenc Kovacs" <info@tyrael.hu> wrote: > Bringing back the discussion to the list, didn't meant to do this off-list. > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Hannes Magnusson < hannes.magnusson@gmail.com >> wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 13:57, Ferenc Kovacs <info@tyrael.hu> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Hannes Magnusson >> > <hannes.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 19:34, Ferenc Kovacs <info@tyrael.hu> wrote: >> [..] >> >> > Yeah, because you are seeing the project as from a contributor POV. >> But >> >> > if >> >> > you check out the PHP project, as an end user/consumer, who just looks >> >> > for a >> >> > interpreted language for web development, then it is important, that >> who >> >> > else is using this project, how much contributors does the project >> have, >> >> > etc. >> >> > Because you don't want to be standing on the shoulders of giants when >> >> > they >> >> > collapse. :) >> >> >> >> >> >> Contributors can be browsed on >> >> http://people.php.net. As for "who are >> >> using it", where would you draw the line? Only fortune500 companies? >> >> Medical related? Goverments? >> >> This sort of stuff is simply riddled with political aspects I don't >> >> want to deal with. >> >> Simply our links page is controversial enough, and will be removed. I >> >> don't want to replace that battle with an ever more profiled one. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > when I was talking about contributors, I meant something a little bit >> > broader than people who have @php.net account, so thats not the same as >> > people.php.net (and Paul Dragoonis said something about that >> people.php.net >> > shouldn't be online in the current form, so maybe that should be sorted >> > out(I don't know the reasons other than it's old and unfinished) else >> it's >> > hardly better, than nothing). >> > I understand your concerns, but from my POV, I think it's not unsolvable, >> > maybe we should rest this for now, and when some other people joins the >> > conversation, we can came up with something, which everybody can agree >> on. >> >> >> I have no idea why he said that, he is in no way involved with that >> project. >> The idea with people.php.net is to make information about the >> developers more accessible, and improve "who is who" in the project, >> and even map out the contributors locations. >> > > It's a good idea, but it is missing content. > I've just checked some of the core devs: > http://people.php.net/user.php?username=stas > http://people.php.net/user.php?username=sniper > http://people.php.net/user.php?username=pajoye > http://people.php.net/user.php?username=rasmus > > btw: the autocomplete search list the matches twice, if one person matches > multiple time: when I searched typed "sta" for stas, it listed him twice, > once for the Stanislav, and once for his nick Stas > > >> Sure, there is a lot of work still to be done, but I think its >> valuable place for newcomers to see who are behind the project, and >> much more valuable then listing random companies who have no >> involvement at all. >> > > Agree, but just for the record: I didn't suggested that we should list > random companies who have no involvement at all. :) > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thats a pain to do. Blindly renaming the lists may not be that >> hard, >> >> >> >> but what about all the archives? Should the -cvs@ names become >> >> >> >> aliases >> >> >> >> to -commits@? Should we move all the current subscribers? >> >> >> >> We'd >> need >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> update the commit hooks to post to the new list.. There are bunch >> of >> >> >> >> things that needs to be remembered and dealt with :) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > It should have been taken care of when the migration was taking >> >> >> > place. >> >> >> > I think that the actual work would require less than a day for >> >> >> > somebody >> >> >> > who >> >> >> > has a list of the required modifications and access for the boxes. >> >> >> > The only thing that missing is to decide/agree on the idea, write >> up >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > list, and take a day off :) >> >> >> > Tyrael >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I work on the PHP project to scratch an itch. I do not itch in that >> >> >> area. Feel free to do it though. Would be nice to have <foo>-commits@ >> >> >> rather then -cvs@ :) >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Sorry, I didn't meant to boss you around, I was just talking about the >> >> > size >> >> > of the task in general. :) >> >> >> >> Right, and I have no problem with if someone wants to do it. It just >> >> has to be thought out. Will it be possible to send subscribe requests >> >> to <foo>-cvs-subscribe@ still like hundreds of blog entries, magazine >> >> articles, and books recommend? >> >> >> > >> > I would go with something like an auto-reply for those adresses: sorry, >> > moved, you probably looking for <foo>-commits-subscribe@ read the >> > announcement here: <link> >> > something like this. >> >> I'm just listing random problems that need to be taken care of :) >> All I'm saying; it has to be thought through. >> > > Then we are agree on this, if you remember, I said, that if you have the > list, the required work for make this happen, isn't much. > > >> >> >> > ps: I've just noticed, that we switched to privat emailing, are there any >> > reason for this to be discussed off-list, or just a mistake on your part? >> > Tyrael >> >> You started started it, I figured you didn't want this on-list. >> >> > /o\ > not intenionally > > Tyrael