Re: PHP 4.0 Bug #5152: Object passed in a session generateserrors when member functions are called

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > > If you want to implement on-demand class loading, you are welcome to. That > > actually might be interesting feature. But certainly it shouldn't shove it > > into deserializer, though deserializer could use it. On-demand loading > > could indeed be useful, though I imagine there could be some problems with > > it (if there are more than one class in the file). But certainly this has > > absolutely nothing common with shoving class code into object definition. > > And I repeat. My main point here was to maintain a connection between the > class definition and the object data. That would make it possible to > autoload them or provide user controlled loading without needing to keep > track of which file might define which class. > > -Rasmus I agree. I would carry it farther, and allow the functions to be serialized totally, so that the text or opcodes made it in with the data. However, that is details. The reason I would like this goes to what I perceive the definition of objects is. Objects is things. [bad english, I know]. If you can serialize an object and store it away and get it back without having to jump through any complex coding hoops, then the object truly becomes a thing. I can imagine being able to store multiple objects in BLOBS in a database and load in "one of this" and "two of that" and have a page come up with _very_ little work on my part. I also get to share those objects with every user on the system. I also get to _control_ the objects, as system administrator, and can then give people controlled access to a lot of stuff without divulging source code to the novice, or leaving files around in public places that might be easy to modify for the cracker. I _really_ like the idea of allowing an object to be serialized, warts and all. I can see all kinds of uses for prepackaged objects that come out of a deep freeze completely ready to go. I was told years ago that no one would ever want a personal computer. The person that told me that still believes it. He is correct. People like him don't want such a thing, or need it. Others, however, have adopted it, even though it is the "wrong" thing to do. bug