Re: php framework vs just php?

On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 17:25 +0800, paragasu wrote: > honestly, i never used any framework to do my coding. > i look into few popular framework like cakePHP and codeIgiter. > I did learn the tutorial but still decide whether to use it on my next > project. > > the thing is, i already develop few working library. no matter how hard i > look into it. i always find it is easier or simpler to work with just php > code and it work just fine. > simple code and i think faster than using complicated php framework. > > i target my code to use specific server configuration. the only advantages > of using framework > is cross server version (i don't need it). since everyone out there talking > about framework. > i still prefer using just php. > > i just wondering whether i am the only one thinking this way. > anyone out there still doing php without using framework? There's plenty of people out there who don't believe in frameworks. Nothing wrong with that-- to each their own. Only thing I would ask you is whether you ever re-use any of your own code from one project to the next? If you do, then chances are you're slowly creating your own framework. And if you don't, well I probably wouldn't hire you because obviously you do everything from scratch every time and are wasting the client's time/money. My clients benefit downstream whenever I add to my framework. A problem solved two years ago is a problem still solved today, and I don't need to copy and paste into their project and thus maintain multiple versions of the same solution. I can just use the original solution since it's inherently part of their project. I use a lazy system for loading modules/components/services so having extra crap in my framework doesn't have an impact on run-time. I don't use autoload, and I only use includes/requires if I'm extending a class. Complexity is a mixed deal... I would probably find your system far more complex since I've abstracted away most of the complexity. Sure there are rules, but only a few and even they are flexible. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP