Re: Re: php framework vs just php?

"paragasu" <paragasu@gmail.com> wrote in message news:89b35b8d0804220625m5441aa8bi7ecbbd728b008ab5@mail.gmail.com... >> If you don't use a framework then obviously you are writing nothing but >> mickey mouse programs, and wouldn't stand a chance when it comes to >> writing >> a proper application. For example, I have just completed an ERP >> application >> which contains 130 database tables, 230 relationships and 1000 >> transactions. >> Because I used a proper framework I managed to complete all of this in >> just >> 6 months. The framework allowed me to generate initial working components >> without having to write any code whatsoever - no PHP, no HTML and no >> SQL - >> so that I could spend the bulk of my time on the really important stuff, >> which is implementing the business rules. That is the benefit of a proper >> framework - it takes care of the boring repetitive stuff and leaves you >> more >> time to deal with the tricky stuff. If you think you can achieve the same >> level of productivity WITHOUT a framework then you are living in cloud >> cuckoo land. >> >> -- >> Tony Marston >> <http://www.tonymarston.net> > > > wow! that is quite a big program u wrote. can you tell me what framework > you > use for the project. Try looking in my signature at http://www.radicore.org -- Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net http://www.radicore.org > well, you have the point. but i know many open source php > out there > do not use specific framework. > not doing framework doesn't mean it is going to be a mickey mouse program. > at some > points, the code will built into a small library which someone might call > it > framework anyway. > a good example is os-commerce and phpBB. I don't see any framework being > use > there > except for specific coding guide lines. but the project still grow to be a > big program and > i bet the code can be over 10, 000 lines (i just guess, might not true) . > you may call the code mickey mouse but the thing is it still working fine. >