Re: Spam control (was Re: [PHP-DB] wealthy)

Or disallow posts with any of these : 1. Abusive punctuations ( !!!!!! / ?????? ) 3. LOTS OF ALL CAPS 4. 'Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618' 5. 'THIS IS NOT SPAM' 6. Has a dead return address 7. 'MILLIONAIRE' 8. Dear <insert mailing list name> 9. 'ONE TIME MAILING' 10. Some others ;-) philip On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Toby Butzon wrote: > In response to recent spammings.... > > I don't see how an international group can rely on American laws in the > first place. Furthermore, lawmakers are politicians, not computer experts. > The laws they make are only so violators can be punished. We can't punish > them if we can't catch them.... > > I, too, agree that the lists have been getting more spam than we used to. I > think we need to move to a list where subscription is required to post; that > would at least stop the address-collecting bots from gathering the list > address. > > However, I don't think other methods of spam filtering are a good idea; they > work blindly, just like some of the stupid firewalls that block any page > with the word "damn" on it... it's just not something a computer can > differentiate with the level of sophistication we're willing to throw at it. > > As for digging through server logs and catching the spammers, it's a nice > idea, but it's time consuming and not very rewarding - there're just too > many spammers to fight. > > As for a solution.... > > In short, only subscribers to the list should be allowed to post to it by > email. > > I realize some of the people that use this list only post to it once or > twice and don't want to see all the messages that come through here daily. > For them, I think it wouldn't be to hard to put together a web form they can > post from (the web boards are already out there, too...); most spammers > aren't going to take the time to cut & paste into one of those (the > automated bots surely won't), and if they do, we can add an intimidating > security message and do some IP-logging. > > Ideas? > > Toby Butzon > [ criticism spurs improvement ] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Geier" <mgeier@cdmsports.com> > To: <php-db@lists.php.net> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:46 AM > Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] wealthy > > > : If you look at the mail headers, you will see that the authenticated > sender > : is not the same user as the reply email. Big Red Flag! > : This probably isn't even an earthlink account. The only way to find out > : what mail server this came off of is to look a the mail logs > : from the php mail server for this email. Then track that back. > : > : I thought we were using a list that only subscribed members could post to. > : If not, why not? There seems to be an increasing amount of > : spam slipping into the php lists in generally. > : > : Further more: > : # dig MX email.com > : ec-mail-intake.mail.com (mail server for email.com) > : > : # telnet ec-mail-intake.mail.com 25 > : > MAIL FROM: me@home.com > : 250 me@home.com... Sender ok > : > RCPT TO: Sophie530@mail.com > : 553 Sophie530@email.com... No such user > : > : So this email is in violation of existing SPAM laws for not providing an > : accurate return address. > : > : ------------------------------------------------------------------ > : Received: (qmail 13342 invoked by uid 1013); 7 Jan 2001 09:44:18 -0000 > : Mailing-List: contact php-db-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm > : Precedence: bulk > : list-help: <mailto:php-db-help@lists.php.net> > : list-unsubscribe: > <mailto:php-db-unsubscribe@lists.php.net> > : list-post: <mailto:php-db@lists.php.net> > : Delivered-To: mailing list php-db@lists.php.net > : Received: (qmail 13336 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2001 09:44:17 -0000 > : From: newterg@earthlink.net > : Date: Sat, 06 Jan 01 23:14:20 EST > : To: php-db@lists.php.net > : Message-ID: <> > : Comments: Authenticated sender is <roge65> > : Subject: [PHP-DB] wealthy > : X-UIDL: Sf[!!4+6"!DIp!!GS("! > : ------------------------------------------------------------------- > : > : -----Original Message----- > : From: newterg@earthlink.net [mailto:newterg@earthlink.net] > : Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 10:14 PM > : To: php-db@lists.php.net > : Subject: [PHP-DB] wealthy > : > : > : Dear php-db@lists.php.net, > : > : AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV : > : > : ''Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your > : home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time'' > : THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET! > : ================================================= > : > : BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! > : > : Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. 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MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON > : YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail > : problems. > : > : ****When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 > : reports.You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your > : computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5 = $25.00. > : > : ****Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 > : reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer > : so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people > : who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports > : and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. > : > : ****IMPORTANT __ DO NOT alter the names of the people who are > : listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way > other > : than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or you will loose > : out on majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this > : works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. > : > : Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT > : work!!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives names on all five > : thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. > : Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. > : So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. > : Because if you do, it will not work for you.Remember, honesty reaps > : the reward!!! > : > : 1....After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and > : REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT #5. This > : person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their > : fortune. > : 2....Move the name & address in REPORT #4 down TO REPORT # > : 5. > : > : 3....Move the name & address in REPORT #3 down TO REPORT # > : 4. > : > : 4....Move the name & address in REPORT #2 down TO REPORT # > : 3. > : > : 5....Move the name & address in REPORT #1 down TO REPORT #2 > : > : 6....Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT #1 Position. > : > : PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address > : ACCURATELY! > : ================================================= > : ****Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it > : on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save > : this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. > : > : ****To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the > : 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing > : information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to > : find thousands of free classified ads and much more. > : > : There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: > : > : METHOD #1 : BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY > : ================================================= > : Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we > : will assume You and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. > : Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the > : response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2% . Also > : many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of > : only 5,000 each). > : > : Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails.With a > : 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report # 1.Those 10 people > : responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out > : of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's = 100 > : people responded and ordered Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out > : 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to > : that is 1000 orders for Report # 3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000 > : e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% > : response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people > : send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) > : e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 > : > : THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = $500,000.00 (half > : million). > : > : Your total income in this example is: > : 1..... $50 + > : 2..... $500 + > : 3..... $5,000 + > : 4..... $50,000 + > : 5..... $500,000 ......... Grand Total = $555,550.00 > : > : NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE > : OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER > : HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF > : MONEY! > : -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > : REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE > : ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a > : moment what would happen if everyone, or half or even one 4th of > : those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over 150 > : million people on the internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, any > : people will do just that, and more! > : > : METHOD #2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET > : ================================================= > : Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are hundreds > : of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the internet > : will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with > : method #1 and add METHOD #2 as you go along. For every $5 you > : receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's > : it . Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee > : that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be > : prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report. > : > : _________________AVAILABLE REPORTS__________________ > : > : ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. > : Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. > : Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping > : it in at least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write > : the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, YOUR > : E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. > : > : PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW: > : ================================================ > : REPORT #1 "The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net" > : ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: > : > : Emanuel Rodriguez > : 3505 Boyer Ave > : Santa Ana, CA 92703-1403 > : ______________________________________________________ > : REPORT #2 "The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk E-mail on the Net" > : ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: > : > : Joann Payne > : 13619 Mukilteo Speedway > : D-5-582 > : Lynnwood, WA 98037-1606 > : ______________________________________________________ > : REPORT #3 "The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" > : ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: > : > : Mark Taylor > : PMB #159 > : 1266 W. Paces Ferry RD. > : Alanta, GA 30327 > : ______________________________________________________ > : REPORT #4 "How to become a Millionaire utilizing the Power of > : Multilevel Marketing and the Internet" > : ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: > : > : Julie Stumpf > : PMB #265 > : 1385 HWY 35 > : Middletown, NJ 07748 > : ______________________________________________________ > : REPORT #5 "How to SEND 1,000,000 e-mails for FREE" > : ORDER REPORT #5 FROM: > : > : Kimberly Fleming #963 > : c/o Landbase Australia > : Locked Bag 25 > : Gosford NSW 2250 > : Australia > : ================================================== > : There are currently more than 250,000,000 people online > : > : $$$$$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > : > : Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: > : > : ***If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 > : weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. > : > : ***After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you > : should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT #2. If you did not, > : continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. > : > : ***Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report #2, YOU > : CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you , and the > : cash will continue to roll in! > : > : THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER : Every time your name is > : moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a Different report. > : You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which > : report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO > : GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF > : E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is > : NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business!!! > : ______________________________________________________ > : > : FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS > : PROGRAM: > : > : "You have just received information that can give you financial > : freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE > : BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks > : and months than you have ever imagined. > : > : Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change > : it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to > : e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and > : address in Report #1 and moved others to #2 ...........#5 as instructed > : above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or > : more e-mails and your name will be on everyone of them. Remember > : though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will > : reach. > : > : So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and > : opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU > : NOW! > : > : ****************MORE TESTIMONIALS***************** > : > : 'My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an > : accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good > : money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about > : receiving ''junk mail''. I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my > : knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it > : wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few > : days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, > : and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing > didn't > : work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 > : responses. Within the next 45 days she had received total > : $ 147,200.00 ......... all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her > : ''hobby''. > : Mitchell Wolf, M.D. , Chicago, Illinois > : -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > : ''Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my > : mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided > : that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that > I > : wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back''. ''I was > : surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with > : orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about > : this deal is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't > : a better investment with a faster return and so big''. > : Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada > : -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > : ''I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered > if > : I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no no idea who to contact > : to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by > : someone else.........11 months passed then it luckily came again...... I > : did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and > : all the money came within 22 weeks''. > : Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. > : -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > : ''It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with > little > : cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within 10 > : days the money started to come in. My first month I made $ 20, 560.00 > : and by the end of third month my total cash count was $ 362,840.00. > : Life is beautiful, Thanx to internet''. > : Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand > : -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > : > : ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON > : YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! > : ================================================== > : > : If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the > : Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade > : Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. > : > : > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > : /// > : ONE TIME MAILING, NO NEED TO REMOVE > : > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > : /// > : > : ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON > : YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! NOW IS THE TIME > : FOR YOUR TURN DECISIVE ACTION YIELDS POWERFUL > : RESULTS > : > : PLEASE NOTE: If you need help with starting a business, registering a > : business name, learning how income tax is handled, etc., contact your > : local office of the Small Business Administration (a Federal agency) > : 1-(800)827-5722 for free help and answers to questions. Also, the > : Internal Revenue Service offers free help via telephone and free > : seminars about business tax requirements. Your earnings and results > : are highly dependent on your activities and advertising. This letter > : constitutes no guarantees. > : > : This message is sent in compliance of the proposed bill SECTION 301. > : per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618. Further transmission > : to you by the sender of this e-mail may be stopped at no cost to you by > : sending a reply to :Sophie530@email.com with the word Remove in > : the subject line. 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