Re: [RFC] Reclassifying engine warnings

From: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 21:12:25 +0000
Subject: Re: [RFC] Reclassifying engine warnings
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If we want PHP to be as easy as possible then $nullref->bar(), $foo->someUndefined(), new UndefinedClass etc shouldn’t be exceptions either - they can just be notices. > On Aug 28, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi! > >> Javascript has treated undefined variables as a catchable exceptions since >> (I think?) forever. > > Which seems to be why I open a random Javascript file in our codebase > and see this: > > var wikibase = wikibase || {}; > wikibase.queryService = wikibase.queryService || {}; > wikibase.queryService.ui = wikibase.queryService.ui || {}; > wikibase.queryService.ui.toolbar = wikibase.queryService.toolbar || {}; > > wikibase.queryService.ui.toolbar.Actionbar = ... > > (not my code but I've seen it a lot) > IMHO, this is language getting in a way and people writing boilerplate > to avoid "service" that is not actually needed. > >> much work. This means its developers often don't improve much either, which > > I don't think PHP should be a language that "builds character" by > forcing people to do more work than it's necessary for them, in order > for them to "improve". I think it should be as easy as possible, and if > somebody wants to learn how the bits move, one can always pick up a good > book or go to a Coursera course, etc. > > -- > Stas Malyshev > smalyshev@gmail.com

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