Re: Request for karma to vote on RFCs
| From: | Tobias Nyholm | Date: | Mon, 19 Jul 2021 03:28:10 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Request for karma to vote on RFCs | ||
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Thank you Kalle for the reply.
I do admire and respect Ondřej and his work on PHPStan. He is really talented and from what I hear
a really nice person. But please don’t confuse Ondřej’s 8 packages with over 100.000 monthly
downloads with my 50 packages plus another 100 in the Symfony organization.
I have tried to approach PHP internals once before by asking for permission to modify some outdated
wiki entries. I got rejected by you and after that I didn’t feel motivated to work with PHP
(source/internals) for a while. I’m sure it wasn’t your intention, don’t worry about it. I
also know that I have modified the manual, or at least I’ve tried because that process is really
painful. I’m honestly not sure if I managed to submit my changes and if I did, I don’t remember
if they got accepted or not.
I know there are plenty of things that could be improved, be more inclusive and less complicated.
For example, the manual pages for Sodium. They were released 4 years ago and still lots of functions
are missing examples, lots of parameters/return types are undocumented and it is impossible to
understand how to use Sodium for someone without a CS degree. The reason why these pages are still
not fully documented is not because lack of knowledge or lack of interest/energy.
I think PHP’s biggest strength is its large and active community. But in my opinion, PHP
(source/internals) often miss to benefit from our great community. I am happy to help making
changes, but I feel like it is an impossible task for me… I mean, I cannot even update an outdated
wiki entry.
I know I’m not a “project leader” for any of the handful large PHP projects. I also know that
I am far from the “top 1000 best developers” list. But I know that there are not many people (if
any) that have a larger impact of user-land PHP right now.
(I do acknowledge that there are people with more impact over the Symfony community, the Laravel
community, or the cool async community etc.)
The only thing I’m asking for is to be among those 1000+ people that can vote on the language’s
future.
// Tobias