Re: Request for karma to vote on RFCs

Hey All Am 19.07.21 um 16:34 schrieb Levi Morrison via internals: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 2:38 AM Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 8:48 PM Tobias Nyholm <tobias.nyholm@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey. >>> I would like to get karma to be able to vote on RFCs. I understand that >>> voting karma isn’t usually given out to people who write their first >>> mailing list entry. >>> >>> But I do believe I qualify as “Lead developers of PHP based projects >>> (frameworks, cms, tools, etc.)” >> >> Hey Tobias, >> >> My response here is basically the same as the last time the topic came up: >> https://externals.io/message/110936#110937 Voting is just >> the very last >> step of the RFC process, at which point the proposal can no longer be >> influenced. If you have feedback about a proposal based on your extensive >> experience in PHP's open source ecosystem, then the discussion phase is the >> time to provide it, while it can still influence the proposal, as well as >> other people's view of the proposal. > > I second this. > >> At least in my personal opinion, I think it's important that people granted >> voting rights as community representatives have at least some historical >> involvement in RFC discussions. > > I agree with this, but have no specific objection to granting Tobias > voting karma, as this is underspecified; how long should they > participate? What kinds of involvement are appropriate? Being > underspecified is not really their fault, and I don't feel like it > would be an abuse to grant them voting karma, but do think it would be > an abuse to deny them voting karma indefinitely because "we" don't get > around to specifying it. It should be less of a decision on a > case-by-case basis and more of a checklist. > Sounds like we need an RFC to make it clearer how voting karma for the RFC process will be granted in the future. Looking forward to your inputs. Cheers Andreas -- ,,, (o o) +---------------------------------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-+ | Andreas Heigl | | mailto:andreas@heigl.org N 50°22'59.5" E 08°23'58" | | https://andreas.heigl.org | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | https://hei.gl/appointmentwithandreas | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+

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