RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3
| From: | Andi Gutmans | Date: | Fri, 04 May 2007 20:15:50 +0000 |
| Subject: | RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 | ||
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Btw, I think if phar is a good way of deploying self-contained apps like
WAR and EAR then we should think of including this in the default
distro. It definitely has value. I just don't think we're quite there
yet.
Andi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:stas@zend.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:07 PM
> To: Marcus Boerger
> Cc: Edin Kadribasic; internals@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3
>
> > - you don't need a tool - well php - but hey you probbaly have that
> > tool
>
> Yes, but they can't open it by any other standard system
> tool. I.e. you always need PHP - and of specific version - to
> work with this file. And I don't know how you expect all
> kinds of proven and widely used tools like mod_rewrite,
> .htaccess, etc. to work with phar-ed application.
>
> > - you can run phar archives out of the box - untouched
>
> You can't however see files there, edit files, copy files,
> etc. by any of the thousands of tools made by people to work
> with files.
>
> > - you can extract phar archives and run them - still untouched
>
> To extract them, you again can use one and only one tool,
> which might not be available on the system you want to open
> the archive on. That's all consequences of inventing yet
> another separate packaging format on top of dozens already in
> existence. Java at least used existing format...
>
> > - you can provide phar archives that do not require a phar extension
>
> What do you mean, how? And if you can - why don't you always
> do so? Why do you need phar extension at all?
>
> > To your question "is phar so important that everybody needs
> it in the
> > main source." I think the above means it should.
>
> Sorry, not clear to me how exactly it means so. There are a
> lot of extensions that live in PECL and do all kinds of
> interesting things - why phar is so special?
> --
> Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer stas@zend.com
> http://www.zend.com/
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