Re: [RFC] Starting 5.3

Hello Stanislav, Friday, May 4, 2007, 10:07:13 PM, you wrote: >> - you don't need a tool - well php - but hey you probbaly have that tool > Yes, but they can't open it by any other standard system tool. I.e. you > always need PHP - and of specific version - nope, there ispear/phar - perfectly compatible and runs on any version > to work with this file. And > I don't know how you expect all kinds of proven and widely used tools > like mod_rewrite, .htaccess, etc. to work with phar-ed application. they most likely don't, it is designed for deployment and for running includes directly. >> - you can run phar archives out of the box - untouched > You can't however see files there, edit files, copy files, etc. by any > of the thousands of tools made by people to work with files. If need be, i'll write a windows-commander plugin :-) >> - you can extract phar archives and run them - still untouched > To extract them, you again can use one and only one tool, which might > not be available on the system you want to open the archive on. That's > all consequences of inventing yet another separate packaging format on > top of dozens already in existence. Java at least used existing format... pear install phar - or - pecl install phar - done oh wait the point is that pecl install doesn't work or is in 99% no option >> - you can provide phar archives that do not require a phar extension > What do you mean, how? And if you can - why don't you always do so? Why > do you need phar extension at all? slow? bigger? overhead? >> To your question "is phar so important that everybody needs it in the >> main source." I think the above means it should. > Sorry, not clear to me how exactly it means so. There are a lot of > extensions that live in PECL and do all kinds of interesting things - > why phar is so special? Interesting and not maintained for the most. Sometimes working on one or the other very specific php version only. And often even without documentation. > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer > stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ Best regards, Marcus