Re: Re: [php-icu] Graphemes and unicode vs intl extension

Hello Hannes, Sunday, March 23, 2008, 12:43:20 PM, you wrote: > Hi Tex > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Tex Texin <tex@yahoo-inc.com> wrote: >> Pierre, Marcus, et al. >> >> 1) The project started a year or so ago. > So for a whole year none of you (not even the Zend employees that > should know better) thought that there maight be a coding standard > that you should follow? > Both for the extension itself and everything it exposes to the user. >> The manual documentation was announced by Stas for review to this list as well on Dec 4. > And the changes requested by us still haven't been made. >> So there has been opportunity for input on the specs and the project is above board. No >> one is "deciding anything about PHP". > Few people want this extension to be moved to core, which means: every > decision about this extension is "deciding anything about PHP". >> 2) I cannot fathom why you say that minds cannot be changed. Questions were asked and >> answered. The discussion is ongoing. Where is the problem? > This thread originated on php-icu@lists.zend.com. That is a big fat > problem. Why didn't you use php-icu@lists.php.net? >> 4) One more note: As the specs and beta have been out for months, we thought we were near >> done. Also, some of the people that worked on this have to move on to other tasks. We also have a >> need for the intl extension and so would like to see at least a first version become available. >> >> Considering the above, please don't interpret responses that propose to put in the >> next version what some might consider to be enhancements, as anything other than we have run out of >> time and man/woman power, but need and can use what is there today. > So what you are saying is everyone working on the extension are simply > waiting for the 1.0.0-stable release before they move on and will > never look back? > Thats awesome and the most important reason why this extension cannot > go into core. I agree. Given the circumstances we encountered just now, I do not think that pecl/intl is in any condition to be put into core. Johannes, what do you think, should we change the 5.3 wiki? Best regards, Marcus