Re: [RFC] Fast Parameter Parsing API

From: Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 16:15:28 +0000
Subject: Re: [RFC] Fast Parameter Parsing API
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On May 23, 2014 5:58 PM, "Dmitry Stogov" <dmitry@zend.com> wrote: > > This patch is connected with Zend only in a way, that I worked on it during last days (it's even not my idea). > but once I saw the idea I saw how it may be useful. I really don't understand you attitude to us. > We are working hard to make a real big step forward... > > 2.5% speedup on real-life is not a good gain? where do you live? :) In a world where clean code base and easy maintenance are better than a couple % performance gain. :) > Thanks. Dmitry. > > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Dmitry, Bob, >> >> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Johannes Schlüter >> <johannes@schlueters.de> wrote: >> > On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 13:52 +0100, Andrea Faulds wrote: >> >> On 23 May 2014, at 12:36, Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Please take a look at >> >> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/fast_zpp >> >> > >> >> > Thanks. Dmitry. >> >> >> >> This looks like a great idea. I like how it’s not only faster, but it >> >> seems to be more readable. >> > >> > More readable? - I feel exactly the opposite. Yes, we get rid of void >> > pointers but use a pattern easy to understand. This looks like macro >> > hell. >> >> I feel the same way. I very much the idea of rewamping zpp, it is a >> long due taks. >> >> However the way it is implemented in this RFC is not something I would >> like to work with for a decade or so. The performance gain is also not >> sufficient enough to justify it. >> >> I think we should think more about other options (no matter how long >> you spent discussing options before posting this RFC). I am sure we >> can come with other solutions which may be cleaner and also provide >> some performance improvements. >> >> > If we break APIs anyways: Can't we go for C++ which allows providing >> > high level APIs with high performance ... >> >> Yes, C++ would in this case provides almost all we need for >> implementing parameter management in a clean and efficient way. Not >> sure if it is desired tho'. >> >> By the way, please do not ask me to come with code and cases to valid >> my comment here, I won't. At least not until things get clarified >> about we wish. The last thing we need is yet another Zend vs World >> about that :) >> >> Cheers, >> -- >> Pierre >> >> @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org > >

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