Re: [RFC] Fast Parameter Parsing API
| From: | Dmitry Stogov | Date: | Fri, 23 May 2014 16:26:37 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [RFC] Fast Parameter Parsing API | ||
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return to the land :)
PHP is used by millions people who never looked into its code.
We are working for them
BTW: 1% + 1% = 2%, and we already came to 30% :)
may be you may propose something that may increase performance at once?
Dmitry.
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On May 23, 2014 5:58 PM, "Dmitry Stogov" <dmitry@zend.com> wrote:
> >
> > This patch is connected with Zend only in a way, that I worked on it
> during last days (it's even not my idea).
> > but once I saw the idea I saw how it may be useful. I really don't
> understand you attitude to us.
> > We are working hard to make a real big step forward...
> >
> > 2.5% speedup on real-life is not a good gain? where do you live? :)
>
> In a world where clean code base and easy maintenance are better than a
> couple % performance gain. :)
>
> > Thanks. Dmitry.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Dmitry, Bob,
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Johannes Schlüter
> >> <johannes@schlueters.de> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 13:52 +0100, Andrea Faulds wrote:
> >> >> On 23 May 2014, at 12:36, Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Please take a look at
> >> >> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/fast_zpp
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks. Dmitry.
> >> >>
> >> >> This looks like a great idea. I like how it’s not only faster, but it
> >> >> seems to be more readable.
> >> >
> >> > More readable? - I feel exactly the opposite. Yes, we get rid of void
> >> > pointers but use a pattern easy to understand. This looks like macro
> >> > hell.
> >>
> >> I feel the same way. I very much the idea of rewamping zpp, it is a
> >> long due taks.
> >>
> >> However the way it is implemented in this RFC is not something I would
> >> like to work with for a decade or so. The performance gain is also not
> >> sufficient enough to justify it.
> >>
> >> I think we should think more about other options (no matter how long
> >> you spent discussing options before posting this RFC). I am sure we
> >> can come with other solutions which may be cleaner and also provide
> >> some performance improvements.
> >>
> >> > If we break APIs anyways: Can't we go for C++ which allows providing
> >> > high level APIs with high performance ...
> >>
> >> Yes, C++ would in this case provides almost all we need for
> >> implementing parameter management in a clean and efficient way. Not
> >> sure if it is desired tho'.
> >>
> >> By the way, please do not ask me to come with code and cases to valid
> >> my comment here, I won't. At least not until things get clarified
> >> about we wish. The last thing we need is yet another Zend vs World
> >> about that :)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> --
> >> Pierre
> >>
> >> @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org
> >
> >
>