Re: cvs: phpweb / copyright.php license.html style.css /include layout.inc

> actually, yes. that's why the manual is under the gpl. (and there > is at least one company doing this already.) Oh. I didn't know that. > someone being picky could interpret the clause above as not allowing > them to use the php.net website from work, which is obviously absurd. True. > i guess we differ here. i'm perfectly happy to see companies making > money off the time i've donated to the php effort. > > after all, i've made money off the time that everyone else has > donated. I think there is a difference between making money off the time we've donated to the php *language* than there is to the time donated to the *website*. I use PHP and I make money. But I don't copy the graphics and layout of other companies' sites in order to do so. Does that make sense? It's like taking someone's glossy sales brochure, pasting your name over top of theirs, and passing it off as your own. Kinda. > > The code, text, PHP logo, and graphical elements on this website > > and the mirror websites (the "Site") are Copyright © 2001 > > The PHP Group. All rights reserved. > > i'd prefer it say "apache software foundation" instead of "the php > group", if we're really looking to protect anything. But, AFAIK, it is the legal entity known as "The PHP Group" (or is it "The PHP Association") that holds the copyright to the logo. Maybe Rasmus can clarify this ... ? > > - You should credit The PHP Group for any reproduction of > > the documents and/or information from this Site. > > i think we can live without this (it is redundant with keeping > the copyright notice intact). Agreed. > > - You may not remove any copyright or other proprietary notices > > contained in the documents and information on this Site. > > - The rights granted to you constitute a license and not a transfer > > of title. > > - The rights specified above to view, download and print the > > documents and information available on this Site are not applicable > > to the graphical elements, design or layout of this Site. These > > elements of the Site are protected by trade dress and other laws > > and may not be copied or imitated in whole or in part. > > it still seems like overkill, but is definitely better. Okay. The second notice is to ensure that when we say "feel free to use stuff", we are clearly *not* saying "here you go, it's yours" ... so people (like the company printing the manual) can't turn around and say they own the text and prevent another company from doing the same. I'm updating CVS now ... - Colin