Re: Re: "open source"

Hi, I followed this list for a while, to see how the PEAR process is working and what the "quality" of development will be. To this moment I am a bit disappointed. As I've read the PEAR website and how contribute website to PEAR, I would totally agree with Alexey, although the way he got there was not very nice. If somebody complies to all the 4 steps written on http://pear.php.net/manual/en/developers.contributing.php and has done steps one to three on http://pear.php.net/manual/en/developers.contributing.howto.php , He has followed the process. It NOWHERE says you have to get along with all the developers. Naturally discussions can occur on functionality, compatibility and other issues, but that's where discussions are for. One thing I am missing on the counterpart in the discussion: "The urge to develop". Step 2 says, Extensible and "forward-compatible" code. I've seen a lot of defensive reactions from PEAR members stating "this would break BC", "this package has to be stable" or just "No". In that case, I don't see where you can carry the title "developer" or "member of a development team". The development process should include all steps like planning, writing, documenting, testing and maintaining. Good luck, Klaasjan Tukker ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Schlossnagle" <george@omniti.com> To: "Alexey Borzov" <borz_off@cs.msu.su> Cc: "Mika Tuupola" <tuupola@appelsiini.net>; "LIMBOURG Arnaud" <arnaud.limbourg@cegetel.fr>; <pear-dev@lists.php.net> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [PEAR-DEV] Re: "open source" > On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 12:42 AM, Alexey Borzov wrote: > > > Greetings! > > > > Mika Tuupola wrote: > >> Being opensource means you have a freedom to modify code > >> made by someone else. It does not mean you have freedom to > >> forcefeed the modifications back to the original project > >> only because you "want to". > > > > I am not forcefeeding, I am using the PEAR's process of proposing a > > new package and actually got enough positive votes. If you think that > > the process itself sucks, do not try to blame _me_ for it. > > The voting process is new to PEAR and far from written in stone. As I > said in my previous mail, PEAR is a group project. If you can't get > along with a significant portion of the group, it really won't matter > in the end how many +1s you get. > > I know you're not new to oss development. I can't believe that you > could walk onto the postgres list with this attitude and get things > committed. > > > > -- > PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >