Re: PEPr Automated Verification Process - firstenhancements

On 6/20/2005 8:47 PM, Lukas Smith spake the following words: > Klaus Guenther wrote: > >> On 6/20/2005 8:09 PM, Lukas Smith spake the following words: >> >> >>> Michael Wallner wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Arnaud Limbourg and someone else wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I always wonder if we should allow comments on draft proposals - it >>>>>> would save alot of time for the proposers trying to come up with a >>>>>> proposal that may never be accepted... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 >>> >>> >>> Err? >>> >>> The point of the draft stage is it to privately assemble his draft and >>> to entire in all the data. The proposal stage is there for discussions. >> >> >> >> >> It seems that too many proposals get lost in draft status. Or stay there >> too long. I think there could/should be the possibility of discussion >> regarding the merits of the package itself. Something like the initial >> discussion that used to take place on pear-dev. It seems (and here I may >> be a bit out of touch) that some people first make a draft before >> talking about the whole concept on pear-dev. Being able to comment >> *before* code is written should be really helpful. >> >> +1 from me, too. > > > how do you intend to find drafts? next thing drafts are send out to > the mailinglist and you can vote on proposals. people who dont know > how the system works should be educated. what you are proposing > effectively means we dont need a draft phase (more or less). > > the purpose of pepr is to propose a package. you put in whatever you > have and once you are done you move to proposal phase. if you have > general development questions you ask them on pear-dev. if you have > specific ideas you want to implement that have some kind of structure > you propose it as a package. if you dont then you discuss on pear-dev. > > the draft phase is a sancturary for proposers. a time where they can > put together their proposal without getting slapped by the CS police > and friends. I see your point... Is there a notice at the top of each published draft notifying the author that he needs to initiate discussion on pear-dev and then continue to monitor pear-dev? Maybe that would be enough... Then we could just mail out a message to pear-dev if we feel the need to comment. In that case, I'd gladly retract my +1 :) The only thing, of course, is that then you can't follow the discussion very well. But in the interest of not snowing new people, maybe that's how it should be. Klaus