Re: Re: move PEAR to PHP 5-only?

Sergio Carvalho wrote:

Joshua Eichorn wrote:

Looking at what linux distro's ship with it should be pretty obvious that most people are still on PHP4. http://distrowatch.com/search.php?pkg=php&pkgver=5.0#pkgsearch Out of the big distro's, only Fedora Core 4 and Suse 9.3 (but not 10 which has 4.4) are shipping 5, everything else is on 4 -josh

The top 10 list is: [1] 1. Ubuntu Linux

Only in snapshot

2. Mandriva Linux

5.0.4 in rc2, 5.1 in cooker

3. Fedora Core

Since fc4

4. SUSE LINUX

in 9.3 but not in 10 or 10.1 alpha

5. Debian GNU/Linux

only in unstable

6. MEPIS Linux

Only 4.3.10 in devel

7. Gentoo Linux

Only in unstable

8. Slackware Linux

4.4.0 is the newest (has no devel listed)

8. Knoppix

4.3.10 is the newest

10. Xandros Desktop

No php at all

From these PHP5 is distributed by all but MEPIS, Slackware, Knoppix and Xandros [2]. Knoppix is a Debian, so a disk install of Knoppix does provide PHP5; It's just not the default on the CD. Slackware includes PHP5 under /testing which probably causes distrowatch to miss it. MEPIS and Xandros are newbie oriented, and probably not found in server environments. Not that I advocate wide php 5 distribution as a good measure of adoption, namely on server environments, but I prefer records being straight. Sources: [1] http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major [2] http://distrowatch.com/search.php?pkg=php&pkgver=5.0#pkgsearch Regards, -- Sérgio

So as you can see from looking at the list, only fedora and suse have php5 in a stable release, and Suse doesn't have it in 10 for some reason. Mandriva seems to be close to a release, Debian has it in unstable, but it seems to me that packages need to at least to get to testing in debian before they get widespread use. So like I said before, its pretty much only Fedora Core 4 shipping php5 out of the major distros. Now in a couple months Ubuntu and Mandrake will also have it but they don't now. I would also like to point out its going to be a year or two before its in debian stable (asuming the next stable release takes less time then the last one), but with its update rate, im guessing everyone backports from unstable anyway. And yes DistroWatch searches suck, you have to go to the page of each distro to see the real facts. -josh