Re: VIM config in PEAR files?

On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 17:09, Dave Mertens wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:26:26AM +0200, Stig S. Bakken wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 11:01, Dave Mertens wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 09:06:22PM +0200, Stig S. Bakken wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 11:23, Dave Mertens wrote: > > > > > > > > Tabs have variable rendering size, so using spaces only is the only > > > > predictable way of formatting code. Did you ever see what happens to > > > > indentation in "cvs diff" output on code that uses a mix of tabs and > > > > spaces? Or in "less"? Or in any other program using a different tab > > > > width? It's all messed up, and that's why we have this standard. > > > > > > But why is using someone spaces and tabs mixed up?? And in every editor a tab still > > > is a tab. > > > I don't program in diff and less is as far i know read-only. > > > > printf("%s", > > $arg); > > ^^^^^^^ > > This is 7 spaces. That's one 4-space tab and 3 spaces. If displayed in > > some editor that has 8-space tabs by default, it will look like this: > Why did you used tabs and spaces mixed up?? That doesn't make sense. Just use 2 tabs or > better, just 1. > > > > Ditto with tabbed code written in an 8-space-tab editor viewed with > > 4-space tabs: > > > > > > if (foo && > > bar) { > > } > > > > Will look like this: > > > > if (foo && > > bar) { > > } > This one is incorrect. I guess that the second line is a indenting of the if statement. > That also that line will indent 8 spaces. If the second line is done with spaces you simple > can't program. > > Sorry. > > > In an environment like PEAR where people use lots of different editors, > > using tabs simply doesn't work. People will end up doing whitespace > > commits fixing rendering in their editor, while breaking it for others. > > Without tabs it will look the same to everyone. > Rendering?? I hope most people spend their time on programming and not how it looks in a diff! > > > > > Diff and less are tools that programmers use, so that argument is just > > bogus. > I only use diff to see the difference between 2 pieces of code (mostly cvs diff) > And also than a tab will be display as a tab. And that the codeline it a bit longer or > continued on the next line that doesn't matter. > > All the php files I want to read i do in an editor. Or won't accept VIM a filename? > b.t.w. What's the difference between VI and VIM? VIM = "VI iMproved" > But you can't convince me. I do programming for more than 17 years now. It can't just > change my coding style. Maybe i write a little script that convert tabs into 4 spaces and backwards. Nobody is asking you or anyone else to change coding style. I certainly haven't changed mine because of this, I just have a hook in Emacs that disables "indent-tabs-mode" when I edit pear files. Most editors have an option for disabling tab-indenting, if not as flexible as Emacs's. Are you suggesting that people are doing indentation by hand? - Stig