Re: Re: PHP Annual Bughunt!
| From: | Markus Fischer | Date: | Tue, 02 Jul 2002 18:04:32 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Re: PHP Annual Bughunt! | ||
| References: | 1 2 3 4 | Groups: | php.qa |
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I suggest you apply for an CVS account. As I said, I like the
idea too.
- Markus
On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 02:30:35PM -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote :
> Hello,
>
> On 07/02/2002 04:22 AM, Markus Fischer wrote:
> >>Actually nothing stops you to make it daily bug hunt. The issue is why
> >>splitting in bug packs will make people spend more time fixing bugs than
> >>before?
> >>
> >>Basically, the compensation for fixing any bugs is the same, so I don't
> >>see many new bug fixers coming.
> >>
> >>This is why I suggested the bug fixers ranking. Actually it used to
> >>exist in the past versions of the bug tracking app.
> >
> >
> > If you haven't noticed, this post was very popular and people
> > having free time jumped around like babies to grab their
> > favourite bug hunting chapter so I call it a big success ever
> > on day one now :-) Everything you suggested makes sense, but
> > as we see that people are already on the bandwagon the
> > question is if it's really worth the time when it already
> > works ;)
>
> I think you are overestimating the success too soon. The question is are
> all bug packs that were requested fixed? Of course not.
>
> The problem is always the same. This is voluntary work. People can only
> give the time they have now. Soon or later they will have other
> prioritary things in their lives and all the people that you see today
> coming back most likely will not be as available while the bug count
> never stops growing.
>
> What I suggested is to motivate more people to come by provided public
> recognition instead of remainining basically anonymous which is almost
> what they get today. People would still come and go, but showing the
> ranking in a public page would tease new bug fixers to keep coming and
> become recognized too.
>
> I am not just guessing that this would work. I am sure it works as it
> has been working for years in the PHP Classes site (Sorry Sterling, I
> can only share the experience I have).
>
> As you know, in this page you can see all sorts of rankings that
> recognize the contributions that the users made to the site.
>
> http://www.phpclasses.org/browse.html/top/top.html
>
> It provides recognition not only to the users that contributed to the
> site with their own classes (now near 300) but also users that brought
> new subscribers to the site in an initiative that is called Friends of
> the PHP Classes site.
>
> http://www.phpclasses.org/friends.html
>
> I have more initiatives to provide recognition to mirror sites, user
> groups, partner sites, training companies, consulting companies, etc.,
> but the principle is the same, exhibit their names publically for
> something that they have done to contribute to the increase of the site
> audience.
>
> This atitude of the site is what I call Fair Exchange. It provides
> something to get something in return. It also tends to reward more those
> that provide greater return to the site.
>
>
> By this time already figured that you guys have fallen yourselves into
> the trap of rejecting all ideas of Manuel Lemos. I admit that somehow I
> expected that. I do not expect you to reckon that this is a good idea
> that could boost the number of contributors that help fixing PHP bugs
> much faster, so I do not expect you to implement anything like I
> suggested, despite it already existed a long time ago.
>
> So, do not bother with any excuses for not doing it because it is clear
> that the single point you will not do it is because Manuel Lemos
> suggested. Maybe some day you grow up and change your attitude towards
> myself reckoning that I am only making these suggestions because I think
> they can provide a better future for PHP.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Manuel Lemos
>
>
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