Re: Re: PHP Annual Bughunt!

Instead of posting your ideas around the mailing lists, why don't you actually DO something? Just giving out ideas is not really helping. --Jani -- On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Manuel Lemos wrote: >Hello, > >On 07/02/2002 04:22 AM, Markus Fischer wrote: >>>Actually nothing stops you to make it daily bug hunt. The issue is why >>>splitting in bug packs will make people spend more time fixing bugs than >>>before? >>> >>>Basically, the compensation for fixing any bugs is the same, so I don't >>>see many new bug fixers coming. >>> >>>This is why I suggested the bug fixers ranking. Actually it used to >>>exist in the past versions of the bug tracking app. >> >> >> If you haven't noticed, this post was very popular and people >> having free time jumped around like babies to grab their >> favourite bug hunting chapter so I call it a big success ever >> on day one now :-) Everything you suggested makes sense, but >> as we see that people are already on the bandwagon the >> question is if it's really worth the time when it already >> works ;) > >I think you are overestimating the success too soon. The question is are >all bug packs that were requested fixed? Of course not. > >The problem is always the same. This is voluntary work. People can only >give the time they have now. Soon or later they will have other >prioritary things in their lives and all the people that you see today >coming back most likely will not be as available while the bug count >never stops growing. > >What I suggested is to motivate more people to come by provided public >recognition instead of remainining basically anonymous which is almost >what they get today. People would still come and go, but showing the >ranking in a public page would tease new bug fixers to keep coming and >become recognized too. > >I am not just guessing that this would work. I am sure it works as it >has been working for years in the PHP Classes site (Sorry Sterling, I >can only share the experience I have). > >As you know, in this page you can see all sorts of rankings that >recognize the contributions that the users made to the site. > >http://www.phpclasses.org/browse.html/top/top.html > >It provides recognition not only to the users that contributed to the >site with their own classes (now near 300) but also users that brought >new subscribers to the site in an initiative that is called Friends of >the PHP Classes site. > >http://www.phpclasses.org/friends.html > >I have more initiatives to provide recognition to mirror sites, user >groups, partner sites, training companies, consulting companies, etc., >but the principle is the same, exhibit their names publically for >something that they have done to contribute to the increase of the site >audience. > >This atitude of the site is what I call Fair Exchange. It provides >something to get something in return. It also tends to reward more those >that provide greater return to the site. > > >By this time already figured that you guys have fallen yourselves into >the trap of rejecting all ideas of Manuel Lemos. I admit that somehow I >expected that. I do not expect you to reckon that this is a good idea >that could boost the number of contributors that help fixing PHP bugs >much faster, so I do not expect you to implement anything like I >suggested, despite it already existed a long time ago. > >So, do not bother with any excuses for not doing it because it is clear >that the single point you will not do it is because Manuel Lemos >suggested. Maybe some day you grow up and change your attitude towards >myself reckoning that I am only making these suggestions because I think >they can provide a better future for PHP. > >