Re: FW: [PHP-DEV] Function caching...

* Zeev Suraski wrote: > The two issues do not contradict each other. Ease of use is usually the > primary concern for enterprise users, since ease of use means short time to > market. That's true, but where are your arguments for the fullfillment of today's needs in big web applications that should be done with PHP _because_ of it's ease of use? > As I said numerous times today, hardware is cheap in comparison to > manpower These are two pairs of shoes. I know about a product, www.mainchat.de, where one can build his own chat for free - they have >25.000 Chats with more than 250.000 users where more than 1000 users are synchronously online - 8 web servers, 4 DB servers and a PHP software load balancing server. But as you see, they used some "dirty hacks" they didn't have to do if we would have such nice things as Kristian wrote in his mail. Today's needs are not only a request-response model but also event based models -- with PHP. > and short development time, so performance comes in second. That's not true. Please read Jakob Nielson on www.useit.com. Performance is an issue that _does_ _count_ today, especially for enterprise users (look at my mail where I stated the contract issues). > >Mental note: and we should spread all over the world that > >PHP (or: the developer's of PHP / Zend) is not interested > >in doing evolution and filling the needs the web application > >developer of TODAY has; instead, PHP should stagnate all over > >and remain a script language that is only capable for small > >web sites who are doing 08/15 things. > That's utter bull. Prove the contrary. -- Björn Schotte b.schotte@pangora.com http://rent-a-phpwizard.de/ bjoern@baer.main.de Online-Applikationen fürs E-Business.