RE: [PHP] Self Destruct code

There is a difference between K-Mart and you developing a web-site. Situation 1: You go to K-Mart. You want to buy The-Great-Machine. At K-Mart you get to see how the product is since there is the actual product right before your eyes. If you like it, you own it after you've paid it. Situation 2: The-Some Ltd. needs a web-site. They come to you, all you got is your word how the product will be, they can't see or try it. You need to do produce the product before they will pay for it, just like you in K-Mart. I don't think you would buy anything from K-Mart if you were there eyes blinded and someone told you that "This The-Great-Machine will do this and that, and you get it if you pay me in advance the whole price!". Doesn't sound like a deal I would do. What I do is make first a deal of the whole price of the project (I don't charge by the hours, I know how long it will take, about at least :) and then I charge the price in peaces on the way to the finished product. The client gets to see the product and they wanna check if I've done what I've told 'em - the things they want to be different are easier to find out and 'fix'. Niklas Niklas -----Original Message----- From: Jay Blanchard [mailto:jay.blanchard@niicommunications.com] Sent: 8. toukokuuta 2002 14:53 To: 'php-general' Subject: RE: [PHP] Self Destruct code [snip] ( I can also understand this, when I buy something, I would also like to have the product before I give the money). [snip] Where do you get the product before paying for it? Certainly not at the grocery. Not at the department store. Not Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Pet-Mart, Shopco, Costco, or your local pub. If you order something online with a credit card you have paid way before you get the product. Only through the graciousness of some are there things like shareware and /or trial versions (somewhat disabled). There are only a couple a places I can think of. You fill up with gas and then walk in to pay the clerk. You get your hair cut and then pay the barber. Other than that, payment is expected before goods change hands. When are we, as a profession, going to see the light? This same conversation comes up again and again on multiple mailing lists, and the bottom-line solution always deals with getting a terms agreed to contract signed before any work begins. Do it or lose it. Jay -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php