Re: RIP PHP 4?

FWIW this is very much in line with bigwigs like IBM and how they manage WebSphere releases (not that they are a model citizen but worth noting). I personally see no problem with this but given how widespread PHP4 use is I'd recommend maybe pushing the date out 3 more months to the March '08 timeframe to give a bit more time for everybody to prepare. --Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Guilherme Blanco <guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> To: jani.taskinen@iki.fi Cc: Stanislav Malyshev <stas@zend.com>; PHP Developers Mailing List <internals@lists.php.net> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 12:28:50 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? +1 I thought you're doing it too late. PHP5 was released in 2004 and until now the adoption is very slow. If you don't break PHP4 support and "force" companies to update it to PHP5, the reason for existence of PHP5 is useless. Have you ever asked yourselves... why? why PHP5's adoption is so bad? I have my arguments. One of them is because you keep mantaining PHP4 for a long time. If you had "found a very dangerous issue in PHP4 that could not be resolved without moving to PHP5", I think the adoption would be greater. Information is everything and manipulating people's fears is a good way to force people to do what you want. As long as you "found" the issue, too many hosting companies would drop PHP4 support afraid of being hacked. Ok, maybe I'm divagating too much, but you can't say that keeping PHP4 support is not one of the reasons for companies not update. My suggestion is that you notify everybody through a main php.net news inclusion to update them that you will be killing PHP4 support at the end of the year. It's good, clear and everyone knows you're already working on another version of PHP. So, why keep mantainance of 3 PHP versions? That's what I have to say. =) Cheers, On 7/6/07, Jani Taskinen <jani.taskinen@sci.fi> wrote: > So why keep supporting PHP 4 then? > > Stanislav Malyshev kirjoitti: > >> I'd be more for dropping all support whatsoever by the end of this > >> year and focus totally on PHP 5/6. Critical security fixes are another > >> issue altogether. > > > > We already are focused on 5/6. When the last time on the list was > > anything php 4 discussed that wasn't security fix? Almost all the > > discussion now is PHP 5/6. > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com URL: http://blog.bisna.com São Carlos - SP/Brazil