Re: RIP PHP 4?

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:46:52 +0100, Alain Williams <addw@phcomp.co.uk> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:35:30AM +0200, Marco wrote: >> > >> > >> >I will venture to say that the biggest issue was; no transition period. >> >> >> I dont think the transition period is a reason for lack of migration 3 > years >> is a pretty long time!. I was actually referring to a transition from PHP4 to PHP5. As I originally stated; there was not a smooth transition - PHP4 is almost nothing like PHP5. So, what I really meant; was that the difference between the two is quite stark. >> the biggest issue is lack of support in popular >> applications, I can't tell you the number of time's i've spoken to a >> hosting company about lack of PHP5 support and their answer being, "Oh > we >> would love to move to PHP5 but our control panel and application X > doesn't >> yet support it". This from my experience is the most common response :( >> See my comment on providing an install guide to accommodate parallel installs of PHP4, PHP5, PHP6 on the same boxen. Now everyone's happy ;) >> The other issue of course is BC breaks, although I can say in my > experience >> the idea of fixing these issue's was a lot worse than actually fixing >> them... I worried about converting a 100,000 line PHP4 app for weeks, > but in >> reality managed to port it to PHP5 in a weekend so I spent longer > worrying >> more than anythig else! I've had the same experience(s). But I've also the opposite experience - more times than I'd care to recall. But of course, it all depends. >> >> We need IMO better information on how to port PHP4 app's to PHP5 > detailing >> area's where issue's are likely to occur so that code can be converted >> faster. > > +1 --- this should be flagged up big at the top of www.php.net/manual/XX > > What might be nice is a patch to PHP4 that provides a bit in > error_reporting > that would cause warnings on stuff that might break on a move to PHP5. With pointers to the PHP5 equivalent? Yes, That would be an excellent approach that would surely make ppl take a closer look at PHP5. > > Someone could then switch it on and look at what is logged. I suspect that > many people would also be pleasantly surprised that 4 -> 5 is not as hard > as it seems. > >> Other than that I say roll on 8/8/08 and to PHP4 I say "So long and > thanks >> for all the fish"!!! > > -- > Alain Williams > Linux Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT > Lecturer. > +44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/ > Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: > http://www.phcomp.co.uk/contact.php > #include <std_disclaimer.h> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// Service provided by hitOmeter.NET internet messaging! .