Re: [RFC] Implicit isset() in Shorthand Ternary Operator

On 18 September 2014 14:34, Johannes Schlüter <johannes@schlueters.de> wrote: > On Thu, 2014-09-18 at 12:41 +0100, Andrea Faulds wrote: >> We could use a function *syntax*, though, but I don’t like this idea. >> coalesce() and ifsetor() are both ugly to me, and it’s not super >> obvious what they do: >> >> var_dump(coalesce($_GET[‘foobar’], 3)); >> >> vs. >> >> var_dump($_GET[‘foobar’] ?? 3); >> >> ?? also has the advantage of being shorter. >> > If you don't now what ?? does it's far from obvious. coalesce is a term > that can be put into google and will deliver results. On the flip side, coalesce() etc would introduce another keyword, which would be a BC break, unless we also manage to get keywords-as-identifiers working and accepted for the same release. I wouldn't mind betting there are quite a few applications out there with a function/method called coalesce() defined... I know there's at least one, because I work on it regularly, and github has over 100,000 hits for it (the vast majority of these are in SQL strings but I still found 4 PHP functions/methods on the first 3 pages): https://github.com/search?q=coalesce+language%3Aphp&type=Code