Re: Category-Proposal: Patterns

El Vie 21 Feb 2003 15:42, Tony Bibbs escribió: > > which I think is particularly well fitting for GUI development, but nor > > for web development... > > Don't take this personal, but I couldn't disagree more. What parts of GUI > development lend itself better to the MVC pattern that aren't present in > many web applications? Don't worry I try not to take it personal :) My previous statement was wrong. What I was trying to say is, the actual implementations of MVC (*) are a good fit for java, but they don't add much value to php. The templating part is more than covered already by several different packages (Smarty and the pear templating engines). Forcing all actions to be handled by Action objects seems to me like Sun is trying to shove servlets down my throat all over again so that JSP remains just as a "templating technology" ("scripting considered harmful"?) If pages are dangerous because they don't have the strict (?) interfaces that object methods have, then I don't think dismissing the power of scripting is the solution. Having a framework to specify interfaces (proper input) for all pages seems like a much better solution to me (In fact, I have some experimental code which does just that). This opinions come from my limited experience with JSP/Struts/servlets, and are probably tainted by my visceral hate for all things java, so feel free to correct me. * Phrame is "based on the design of Jakarta Struts", so I'm not considering it (this is not a statement on the merits of Phrame).