Re: Category-Proposal: Patterns

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Tobias Schlitt wrote: > But thats the point, why we all code PHP, or? Dislikement to > Java. Or do you just prefer PHP because its free? I think > better OO-features will be quite great to improof PHP. I agree > with you article about "refactoring otherones code". But a main > point which makes me flaming Java is that Java forces me to > make things like Java wants me to do and PHP let me do things > like i'd like to do them. Folks, discussing Java & PHP is a bit off topic but here are some thoughts that only experience has taught me: PHP and Java is not an 'this or that' question. Programmer needs to think more like a good mechanic and use the best tool to do the current job. Java is better at doing some things than PHP. PHP is better at others. Knowing the merits and limitations of various languages will allow you to make the right decision. When you are posed with a question you should be able to rest assured knowing you have all the tools needed to do the job. Be wary of the mechanic equipped only with a screw-driver. > I tried using Java a couple of times but I never understood, > what Java should make only 1 point better than PHP. Summerize > all advantages of both languages. IMHO PHP wins the contest by > miles... Well can you assign system resources on an application by application basis? Can you *quickly* get support for failover (including session data)? Scalability...do you really think PHP scales as well as Java? It does in some regards but not all. Finally, support. While Zend and PHP and PEAR all serve a great purpose, enterprise-level PHP support doesn't exist (at least not where I am here in the midwestern US). Yes, there is a flip side to this with PHP merits. But I won't bore this list with items that make PHP a good langauge considering most of us wouldn't be on this list if we didn't already know that. All that and it's coming from an advocate of PHP. > > OO-Features are pretty cool. But do not force people about > using them. I know pretty many developers that like procedural > coding much more than OO. To each his own ;-) -- Tony Bibbs "I guess you have to remember that those who don't tony@tonybibbs.com hunt or fish often see those of us who do as harmlessly strange and sort of amusing. When you think about it, that might be a fair assessment." --Unknown