Does this mean we can forget namespaces then?
Is this where we have come to: blackmail ?
--Jani
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>Fine.
>
>Let it be noted that I oppose going forward with any other clean-up of the
>language namespace before this bug goes away. If we don't clean the
>obvious ones, we might as well keep in everything.
>
>(a very disappointed) Zeev
>
>At 15:51 08-09-01, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote:
>>[Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>]
>> > At 09:13 08-09-01, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
>> > >At 05:33 AM 9/8/01 +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote:
>> > >>That's unfortunate. IMHO, it should be phased out.
>> > >
>> > > I'm against it. _() has been around forever as part of gettext
>> > > package and people who expect to find it in PHP will be pretty
>> > > disappointed.
>> >
>> > Disappointment isn't exactly the metrics here. People who migrate
>> > from other languages will be disappointed not to find all sorts of
>> > things they're used to from their old languages, but it has never been
>> > a reason to obscure PHP.
>> >
>> > _() has no room in PHP's naming convention. There's a small downwards
>> > compatibility issue (it's not advertised very promptly), so we should
>> > deprecate it just like we deprecate and have deprecated other
>> > functions in the past.
>>
>>Hey, let's just leave it, please. There's a zillion people who use
>>this now, it's what they expect if they have used gettext before.
>>It's been here for 2.5 years, it hasn't bothered anyone until now, and
>>I don't think removing it would be anything less than counter-
>>productive. Removing it would only make people alias _ to gettext
>>themselves, net result being i18n'ed code running slower. It's not
>>like we're going to add more single-character aliases, so I don't buy
>>the feature creep argument either.
>>
>>L_A! (leave _ alone!)
>>
>> - Stig
>>
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>> Stig Sæther Bakken <ssb@alltheweb.com>
>> Fast Search & Transfer ASA, Trondheim, Norway
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