RE: [PHP] Dreamweaver 4 ignores PHP - again

> I find that generally, PHP users tend to be more cluey than most about > HTML and coding in general. Still I agree with her - people who say "I use a barebones text editor and that *obviously* makes me superior to anyone using a sophisticated editor or -heaven forbid- a wysiwyg proggy or an IDE that does code generation" drive me up the wall. PHP is going to be used by people who don't really have a technical background and come from design, because it is easy enough to pick up quickly and do nifty things. If they join this list and read things like that, what are they going to think? "Oh my, I'm not posting a question here, they'll probably refuse to reply or even flame me..." And besides, deciding that people are monkeys cause they use a commercial tool does not make sense anyway. Now if you work on small projects and rarely have to work your way through someone else's code a simple editor can be the best tool (I like Edit+) -but when you have to work on other people's code, or on a big project, or with designers... I would not want to work without things like syntax highlighting, parenthesis matching, intelligent indenting etc. Oh and folding and "bookmarks" and code snippets and customizable keyboard shortcuts... and if possible some easy tools that plug into the documentation/APIs, or can analyze my code when I am working in things like java... Our designers work in dreamweaver - and when I did webpages myself, I used the dreamweaver-homesite combo, dreamweaver to play with the design, homesite to clean and tweak and for certain things I just can do quicker in homesite... (but some things I sure can do quicker in DW) Now Dreamweaver is not an application development tool, and should not be used this way, but as a tool to put in the hands of designers to do interface design, and as a tool for the maintenance of static parts of a website, it does an awesome job. The best designers I have worked with usually used DW - yet were very savvy in HTML, DHTML, Javascript and often PHP/XML/JSP. And when I have to take my designer's mockups and make them into something my php app can use to generate dynamic pages, I sure would like to be able to have dreamweaver cause it does give you a quick view of the structure of a page... And I don't necessarily assume that people that create an IDE by drag and dropping and connecting bits in an IDE are necessarily worse developers than I am - they might be, but they could just be very good developers who have tested their IDE and know what parts they can trust the IDE to do a decent job quicker than they would and when not. That's certainly how the designers here use dreamweaver -they know what it does well and what it mangles and use it accordingly. rant over Joelle Nebbe _______________________________________________________________________ Any opinions expressed in the email are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the IT manager by telephone on 0113 243 2701 _______________________________________________________________________