Re: Genus who came up with "Self Destruct Code" & "Copy Pro tection"

Yeah thanks a heap.. I will look into this.. Look I am a young dude.. But I have done a few sites now, what kinda of layout/format do I need for a contract? can you give me a basic idea of what I need to put in it, etc? like maybe a demo or example would be great Thanks a zillion.. :) ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : Julien Bonastre [The-Spectrum.org CEO] : A.K.A. The_RadiX : the_radix@hotkey.net.au : ABN: 64 235 749 494 : QUT Student #: 04475739 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Soza" <solja@gci.net> To: "Vail, Warren" <Warren.Vail@schwab.com> Cc: <dfreeman@outbackqld.net.au>; <php-general@lists.php.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] Genus who came up with "Self Destruct Code" & "Copy Pro tection" > Following this thread, and being someone who establishes government > contracts for a living, I think I can contribute a bit here. > > The best piece of advice given so far: establish a written contract > signed by both parties. Verbal ones are iffy, to say the least, and > most likely wouldn't hold up in court. > > The next best piece of advice: document everything. > > If you do these two things, it doesn't matter what you're distributing, > source code, compiled programs, or hub caps, if the other party doesn't > pay, and you have documented evidence that you did the work, they're > toast. That's called material breach of contract (or default), and any > judge would rule in your favor and you'd get your legal fees plus > whatever the other party owed you. > > Now, if you're performing your services under no type of written > contract, you're eventually going to get burned and it'll turn into > a 'your word against his' situation and your chances of prevailing and > being duly compensated are much slimmer. > > The copyright issue is a good topic too. In the contracts my state > awards, -anything- developed in the performance of the contract becomes > the property of the state. That doesn't include previously developed or > purchased tools, but if we want you to make a widget, and you end up > having to develop and make a foobar in order to complete the widget, we > own both the widget and the foobar. Of course, copies of either or both > may be kept by the contractor at our discretion, and changes to > the "Ownership" article are not unheard of. > > Bottom line: written/signed money for services contracts, all the time, > will save your butt! > > Anyway, hope this helps someone somewhere. :) > > Jason Soza > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vail, Warren" <Warren.Vail@schwab.com> > Date: Tuesday, May 7, 2002 2:34 pm > Subject: RE: [PHP] Genus who came up with "Self Destruct Code" & "Copy > Pro tection" > > > Complain all you want about having to distribute source to > > customers with > > PHP (the free version, that is), but if you were willing to pay > > hard cash > > for an answer to your problem, it seems to be available at > > http://www.zend.com/. The deployment software, on the > > surface, > > promises to > > protect source code. Does anyone on this list have experience > > with this > > tool? > > > > Bottom line, can you really look a gift horse in the mouth and > > still see the > > other end? > > > > > > Warren Vail > > Tools, Metrics & Quality Processes > > (415) 667-7814 > > Pager (877) 774-9891 > > 215 Fremont 02-658 > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >