Re: PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression

Am 02-Mar-2022 13:51:07 +0100 schrieb ocramius@gmail.com: > > Hey Christian, > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 1:41 PM <naitsirch@e.mail.de> wrote: > > this is exactly the problem. Russia did not just invaded Ukrainia out of nowhere. The > > story started in 2014 with the illegal coup d'etat against Viktor Yanukovych and its acceptance > > by the western countries. Or even earlier, with the eastern extension of the EU and the Nato, to get > > Ukriane on their side, stoping the political neutrality of Ukraine between Russia and the western. > > > > As you see, it is not as simple. Should we start a discussion now? I do not think so. It > > would not help anybody. Wars or conflicts are never simple. Usually there's a long story. > > Taking ones side in political conflicts will separate the community for sure. > > > > Please do not start that. > > > > You and anybody else can show their political position on twitter, facebook or elsewhere. > > We do not need to do that on php.net. > > Please GTFO: we don't need more of Putin's propaganda over here, as they're busy > enough with butchering civilians over there. > > Greets, > > Marco Pivetta Hi Marco, this is exactly what I meant. It leads to separation of the community and hate against each other. You judge my statement as Putin propaganda although I have not said I am supporting Putin or the war. I only wanted to make clear, that if we start to support Ukraine as the victimized party in this conflict we have to do that in other conflicts, too. Look at the Iraquis who were attacked by the USA, the Uyghurs in China, the poulation in Noth Korea or the war in Yemen. Thousands of people are dying there every year and nobody is raising his voice. Maybe I can give you an example to make clear what I mean: If the banner for the Ukraine is shown on php.net. I could request a banner for the people in Hong Kong who are suppressed by China, too. If you refuse it, it would be very unfair. If you say "yes" there should come more requests. Then php internals will have to create rules when php.net should show its solidarity and when not. I hope you understand my point better, now. Best regards Christian