Re: PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression

From: Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2022 01:55:21 +0000
Subject: Re: PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression
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On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 8:53 PM Michael Morris <tendoaki@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 3:31 AM Victor Bolshov <crocodile2u@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello internals. > > > > In these dark days for humanity, we as people of civilization, people > > of sanity, kind and caring people with children and families - we have > > to speak up, loud and clear, in support for Ukraine. To stop Russian > > aggression. > > > > I suggest to add Ukranian flag and a supportive anti-war disclaimer to > > the header of php.net website. > > > > Why is this important? There are a lot of PHP developers in Russia. A > > lot of them, sadly, have been brainwashed by Putin's propaganda. They > > still must have a lot of respect to PHP authors and creators. Seeing > > that these people, who have their respect, are against the war and for > > the freedom of Ukraine, might have an impact. > > > > This is not the time to "stay away from politics", we are experiencing > > an attack on humanity itself. Take example from > > <https://junit.org/junit5/> and their clear > > statement. > > > > Say NO to war! > > > > This original post has been met with some controversy. I don't know how > much my voice counts, but I will say this. > > The occasions in history where one side is utterly and completely in the > wrong are rare, but they do occur. Russia had no right to invade - period.. > Attempts on this list have been made to justify Russia's actions, but they > are logically tortured as the Nazi justifications for invading Poland or > Soviet Russia. Maybe I missed them, but I don’t recall anyone justifying Russias actions. Can you cite them please? > > Speaking of the Nazis, even Hitler didn't stoop so low as to send in troops > utterly unprepared for what they were about to face while lying to them > that they'd be lauded as heroes. Neither did Stalin. Putin has done that.. > > Now, you can try to justify certain things. You can try to justify Putin's > War, but you will never convince anyone of your position - you can only > succeed in proving yourself to be evil. Evil is the complete absence of > compassion for the suffering of others, and only someone who is evil can > advocate for Putin's War or try to justify it in any measure. > > Evil is a powerful word - one I do not use lightly. When one side calls > another evil they say that there can be no more dialog, no more compromise, > no more cooperation. The only correct response to evil is opposition. > -- Chase Peeler chasepeeler@gmail.com

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