Re: PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression

On Sat, 5 Mar 2022, 04:31 Kris Craig, <kris.craig@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 4:51 AM Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Christian, >> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 1:41 PM <naitsirch@e.mail.de> wrote: >> >> > this is exactly the problem. Russia did not just invaded Ukrainia out of >> > nowhere. The story started in 2014 with the illegal coup d'etat against >> > Viktor Yanukovych and its acceptance by the western countries. Or even >> > earlier, with the eastern extension of the EU and the Nato, to get >> Ukriane >> > on their side, stoping the political neutrality of Ukraine between >> Russia >> > and the western. >> > >> > As you see, it is not as simple. Should we start a discussion now? I do >> > not think so. It would not help anybody. Wars or conflicts are never >> > simple. Usually there's a long story. >> > Taking ones side in political conflicts will separate the community for >> > sure. >> > >> > Please do not start that. >> > >> > You and anybody else can show their political position on twitter, >> > facebook or elsewhere. We do not need to do that on php.net. >> > >> >> Please GTFO: we don't need more of Putin's propaganda over here, as >> they're >> busy enough with butchering civilians over there. >> >> Greets, >> >> Marco Pivetta >> >> http://twitter.com/Ocramius >> >> http://ocramius.github.io/ > > > I find this deeply, deeply disturbing. > Good: time for some self introspection then. As for the rest of the thread, I am deeply ashamed of the state of php-internals. https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gfsiw2pf_Y0&time=1h44m48s I will take (continue taking) action elsewhere: the fact that some of you are "disturbed" by my message, means that it came through as intended. >